Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: We are the super nerdy Sailor Guardians who fight for love and justice. And this is across the Mooniverse.
Hello and welcome to across the Mooniverse. My name is Maddie and I'm Mike.
And I am very excited for this episode. Happy Moon Day.
[00:00:48] Speaker B: Happy Moon Day.
[00:00:49] Speaker A: If our upload schedule is correct, this particular episode should come out in two weeks from when we're recording this. Right.
So it'll come out just after Halloween.
[00:01:04] Speaker B: Just after Halloween. Which is pretty good timing for this episode.
[00:01:08] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:01:11] Speaker B: Because today's episode is season one, episode 20, the beach the Summer Youth and goes.
[00:01:22] Speaker A: Would you like to know the original air date of this episode?
[00:01:26] Speaker B: I would.
[00:01:27] Speaker A: The original air date was on August 1, 1992. So I was just barely two years.
[00:01:34] Speaker B: Old when this came out. I was 22.
[00:01:41] Speaker A: Not to reveal the age gap difference between us.
[00:01:45] Speaker B: Yeah, it's easy though, because 20 years is easy to do the math on. True. Having a 20 year age cap.
[00:01:53] Speaker A: Yeah, it works out nicely.
[00:01:55] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't notice it though, because, you know, you have. You have. Your musical knowledge is the same as mine, so it's like you were there.
[00:02:05] Speaker A: I have. You have to appreciate your music history. You got to know where you came from to know where you're going to go.
[00:02:11] Speaker B: Well, wasn't your mom a dj?
[00:02:14] Speaker A: Yes, my mom was a radio DJ for many, many years and my stepmom was in a band. And I've just kind of been. I also live with.
I mean, my. My parents. All of my parents are all trivia nerds. So anytime they had an opportunity to be like Maddie, who sings this. Why is this significant? Who plays guitar on this song? Like, I absorbed a lot of information.
[00:02:40] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.
[00:02:42] Speaker A: How relevant that I do this every single day.
[00:02:45] Speaker B: Yeah, well, it's relevant to me. It definitely helped. It definitely helped form our friendship. All right, I have 19 pages of notes. So like you said, is quite a bit for a filler episode.
[00:03:01] Speaker A: I don't have 19 pages of notes.
[00:03:03] Speaker B: But yeah, we're not going to have any huge plot points revealed like that Mamaru is Tuxedo Masked. But this is a fun episode and I did some deep dives while I was watching it because I have. I. The more I watch the show, the more questions I have about this show's portrayal of Japanese culture and assumptions that the show makes about Western culture. It just. It just is interesting to me how the Japanese, you know, in their. In their storytelling, in their anime, they. They lean heavily on Western culture for tropes.
[00:03:41] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, there is. There I mean, there are a lot of really good tropes, but there are also, like, some tropes that, you know, we. We might think are Western culture, but might end up actually being. When you trace them all the way back. Oh, it's actually Right. You know, from. Whatever. I had no good example to follow that up on. I was just trying to make a point.
[00:04:07] Speaker B: Well, I'll bring it up when it comes up. Some of. Some of the tropes I noticed because. So just to talk about tropes. So after you introduced me to Sailor Moon, I knew anime existed. And as I like to brag to you, I saw Akira at the usc, at a screening at USC for its American release. And Akira was the first jet. They called it Japanimation back yo. Yep. And Akira was one of the first movies released in America. And I remember seeing it and really being like, blown away. I'd never seen animation like that before.
[00:04:49] Speaker A: And that is. And then if listeners, if you haven't ever seen Akira, highly recommend just for the history of it. It's weird, but in a good way. He's weird.
[00:05:01] Speaker B: Yeah. But I mean, I had no context. I mean, you know what I mean? It wasn't like a Disney movie.
[00:05:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:08] Speaker B: You know what I mean? And so it was like. It was. It was, you know, it's this futuristic dystopian, you know, motorcycle gangs and stuff like that. And so I had an appreciation for the genre. But after being introduced to Sailor Moon and since my lifestyle has changed since moving to Seattle, where I have a lot more free time, I really embraced anime. And one thing I noticed in anime is that shows that have female characters, they tend to have a beach episode. So this is no different.
[00:05:41] Speaker A: You know, it's also very slice of life animes that will have slice of life anime that'll have the beach episodes a lot of the time.
[00:05:51] Speaker B: Right.
[00:05:51] Speaker A: It's usually kooky fun. Kooky fun. It's a comic feature that makes its way into most D and D campaigns as well.
[00:06:00] Speaker B: Like in High School of the Dead, it's set at a high school where the zombie virus is broken out. And so the whole show is about these high schoolers who are trying to go from their school to safety, going through a town infested with zombies, and yet they somehow managed to make it to the beach.
[00:06:22] Speaker A: Of course.
[00:06:23] Speaker B: For one episode.
[00:06:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:24] Speaker B: And the beach episodes tend to be nonlinear. They tend to not be part of the narrative structure of the show.
It's a chance for the animators to relax their storytelling and just have A fun day at the beach. And this one's no different.
[00:06:41] Speaker A: And usually you'll see in most series that have a beach episode, um, usually it's. It happens like after a big story arc, like, closes or after, you know, whatever. Because then it's like, oh, this is a palate cleanser. You guys have been through a lot. Here you go. And this is lighthearted and fun. Ha ha ha. Like, everyone's safe. All we're doing is, you know, cracking watermelons with bats and playing with friends. Ha ha ha ha.
[00:07:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Because the last. Last episode, a lot of big stuff happened.
[00:07:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:14] Speaker B: We discovered Tuxedo Mask identity.
Sailor Moon and Tuxedo Mask had some. Spent some time together.
[00:07:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:22] Speaker B: At which time he reveals that he doesn't know why he comes to a rescue, but he feels that he has to. He feels that he knows her, you know, somewhere in his past. Naru. We don't know the status of Naru. Naru is a cliffhanger.
[00:07:36] Speaker A: It's true.
[00:07:37] Speaker B: So here we are.
[00:07:41] Speaker A: I can answer at least one of those questions for you immediately.
[00:07:44] Speaker B: Go ahead.
[00:07:46] Speaker A: We know. We know how Naru is doing. Because at the beginning of this episode, they're all excited about going to the beach. Our girls. And Usagi immediately wishes that Naru was there with them, implying that Naru has in some way recovered from her ordeal. And if, were it not a serious training camp run by Luna, Naru would be there.
[00:08:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:13] Speaker A: And it was definitely a super. They did so much training in this episode, let me tell you.
So much training.
[00:08:21] Speaker B: I know. Yeah. They. So. So it opens with a seaside train station. Usagi, Rei, and Ami exit the train and look out across the ocean. And looking at the beach. And the sea breeze is so refreshing. And this place is nice. And Sailor Moon says, too bad Naru couldn't be with us. And.
And then Luna pops out from a picnic basket, and it has to be the buzzkill. And she's like, you're not on vacation. This is the summer training camp.
[00:08:54] Speaker A: How. How dare you. How dare you Want to go have fun in the sun? This is serious business. That's why your other friend isn't here.
[00:09:02] Speaker B: So my note. My note right here is, thank you, continuity. And so what I mean by that is that we were left with a cliffhanger about Naru's condition. Right. And they address it in this episode. And so I want to talk a little bit about how this story is structured. Okay.
[00:09:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:24] Speaker B: So, but in general, you have. There's different types of TV shows, and this carries over Into Japan. Japan has adopted some of these styles.
[00:09:34] Speaker A: Oh, definitely.
[00:09:35] Speaker B: You have your half hour comedies, your sitcoms, we're all kind of familiar with that dynamic. And then you have your one hour episodic dramas.
So Sailor Moon is kind of a half hour episodic drama.
You know, there's, you know, there's a main story that runs through that, pushing us along, trying to compare it to the X Files where we get set up with these characters in this setting where they work for the FBI and they go and they investigate these paranormal incidents. But all the while there's kind of this running story about the Smoking man and this conspiracy to cover up these terrestrial events. And so, you know, sometimes MDX files, they'll just be investigating a single kind of one off paranormal episode. And sometimes the episode will focus strictly on pushing the story forward about Mulder's investigation within the FBI. You know, who's, you know, who, who are the secret keepers and stuff like that. And so it's kind of the same with Sailor Moon. It's structured in that every episode kind of happens the same, you know, like.
[00:10:58] Speaker A: Monster of the Week.
[00:11:00] Speaker B: It's also kind of like Pokemon. In this way.
It's very simple. Here's how you sum up Pokemon. Every episode is relatively the same. You introduce a problem or a challenge, you discover a new monster, you catch it and use it to battle whose outcome resolves the problem of challenge.
That's pretty much every episode. There's not much more to it throughout an entire. I only watch Pokemon black and White, so I only know this kind of story of black and white. Whether on a new island, he's got new monsters and he has new friends. But I assume that everywhere he went it was kind of the same.
[00:11:41] Speaker A: I mean, as somebody who really. The only Pokemon series, anime wise, that I watched was the original. Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's exactly how it goes.
[00:11:51] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:11:52] Speaker A: Since the beginning it's oh no, what's our problem? Gosh, well, now we gotta go do this.
And sometimes it'll be a two parter.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: So this is what I've determined is the structure for Sailor Moon. Amidst the life of an average 14 year old schoolgirl, we notice someone or something is acting in a strange, unexpected way. It causes the sailor Scouts and or Luna to become concerned that the Dark Kingdom is plotting some new scheme against the people of Juban. The investigated leads includes evidence and people of interest to solve the mystery of what's behind the ordinary events unfolding around them.
They confront the source of the strange events which leads to Yoma materializing and attacking the Sailor Guardians who have uncovered the monster's role in increasing human victim's energy and then collecting that energy, which is supposed to be given to Dark Kingdom's great leader. A battle ensues between the Yoma and which Edward Sailor Guardians are present when the Yoma materializes. Sometimes Tuxedo Mask joins the fight. The victorious Guardians spoil the efforts of the Dark Kingdom and restore order to those people and places and institutions and societal norms that have been disrupted and exploited and imperiled by evil forces. Each episode ends the group's sense of well being and normality being restored. That's kind of what happened. That's, you know, it basically the. Something goes wrong, someone's acting weird. That weird person they find out is being influenced by a Yoma. The Yoma materializes and they bite it. That's kind of what happens in every episode.
[00:13:34] Speaker A: And then almost.
Almost always there's at least one daydream.
[00:13:39] Speaker B: That's. Yeah, that's. That's a characteristic of the narrative. But so in when I said thank you. Continuity. See, if you're doing that, if you're just going to have each week, each week be a new monster fight. There's. There's no.
There's no long term story being told.
[00:13:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:59] Speaker B: You know, we already. We've already gone through a main character. We already had J D come and go, you know, now. Now we're with Nephrite. And so it's an unfolding story about the Dark Kingdom's efforts and how the Sailor Guardians are reacting to that. And so with Naru being out injured and left incapacitated, it's good to hear that they followed up with that. There's another piece. I'll just say now there's another piece of continuity that I love, which is that Usagi swimsuit is the one from the modeling episode.
[00:14:34] Speaker A: Yep. With the one with the moth eaten.
[00:14:36] Speaker B: With the bows, which. With the bows on it. I love that. That's great. I mean, that's like real life. You know what I mean? It's, you know, it's in sitcoms, they don't do that usually. You know, things will change. Like in that 70s show, who was dating? Who would change?
[00:14:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:54] Speaker B: You know, and that would kind of tell you what season you were in. But from episode to episode, you really didn't rely that much on information from previous episodes to inform what was going on in the current episode. That is not the case with Taylor. Moon Taylor.
[00:15:08] Speaker A: No, no, no, no.
[00:15:09] Speaker B: As a more strict narrative structure, all Right.
[00:15:13] Speaker A: It's true.
[00:15:15] Speaker B: So.
[00:15:15] Speaker A: And can I tell you another little continuity thing that won't come up for a while, but it's not a spoiler.
The scene where Usagi. This happens later in the episode, but the scene where Usagi takes the textbook from Ami is used in the first movie.
[00:15:37] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Interesting. Yeah, interesting.
[00:15:41] Speaker A: And when I watched it as a kid, I had no idea, because this particular episode is not included in the original dub.
[00:15:47] Speaker B: They cut this out for the American audience.
Huh.
[00:15:53] Speaker A: Which makes sense. I mean, it's. It's kind of.
From the way that they edited things back in those days, it was very. You know, this is weird. American kids probably won't get it. Yeah, let's just get rid of it. It's a filler episode.
[00:16:07] Speaker B: So when the voice actors who did the current job, when they had to record this episode, they actually had to translate it. Somebody had to actually translate it.
[00:16:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I mean, it's. I. They have. It's. The. The actual show has been translated many, many times. But yeah, when they did the new dub, there were. And included all of the episodes. There were some that were just new.
[00:16:33] Speaker B: We're new. We're new. Okay, understood.
[00:16:35] Speaker A: New. All right, so just quotes in the air.
[00:16:38] Speaker B: So back to the train station. Yeah. I got a. I've got a request for the Internet on the top of the train. The destination placard.
What is that Conjugate say. I'm curious where they are.
[00:16:54] Speaker A: Let me ask the intern.
[00:16:55] Speaker B: All right.
I figured the intern would have some fun with that because I assume it's the name of a real place.
And it's pertinent because this is the first time the episode has been set somewhere other than Jabba.
[00:17:13] Speaker A: True.
[00:17:14] Speaker B: Listen, I'm calling it a seaside beach resort.
[00:17:19] Speaker A: I mean, kind of. Yeah, yeah.
[00:17:23] Speaker B: So now I believe it's.
[00:17:26] Speaker A: It's called. Well, the reservation is at a pension house.
[00:17:32] Speaker B: Right. And of course, I immediately had to figure out what that was.
And so it's a type of lodging. Oh, I wanted to ask you this.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:17:42] Speaker B: So this is the first time that we mentioned what season we're in. They're just saying it's summer.
[00:17:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:49] Speaker B: We didn't see there was no end of school or anything like that. Does Japan have an official summer break or is it just a break?
[00:17:57] Speaker A: Yes, but it is significantly shorter.
[00:17:59] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: Basically, Japan has school kind of all year round, and there are just more shorter, like, breaks in between certain things. But they do school a lot.
Yeah.
[00:18:14] Speaker B: So they still. Summer vacation is different. It's not like. Because When American kids go on summer vacation, the school year ends and summer marks the transition from one grade to the next. And I didn't know if that was the same in Japan.
[00:18:31] Speaker A: Yeah, not quite.
And also typically, because your summer break is shorter, you're typically assigned homework during the summer.
[00:18:44] Speaker B: Okay, okay. So Sailor Moon asked Ray, how far away is the pension you booked, Ray? And so I was like, what's a pension? And we'll get there. When they get to the pension, we'll talk a little bit about lodging.
[00:19:03] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:19:05] Speaker B: So Usagi tells Raid she expects the hotel to be a really nice, swanky resort.
And then that made me wonder, who's paying for all this?
For this training mission, if it's not a vacation, who's putting the bill? Because it's pretty expensive for some 14 year olds.
[00:19:24] Speaker A: Yeah, it sounds like maybe Ray has it covered with something.
[00:19:30] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean, but we're talking about you gotta transport everybody, you gotta get train tickets, you gotta pay for lodging, you gotta pay for food and lodging. Although we'll talk about that too. Because the food is included in this type of lodging, which is common with pensions, from what I understand.
[00:19:49] Speaker A: It's true. But it's. It's all. All food. Not just because, like a bed and breakfast that only does breakfasts, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:20:00] Speaker B: Pedro's do two meals is what I learned.
[00:20:02] Speaker A: I. I have it that they do breakfast, lunch and dinner and sometimes tea.
[00:20:08] Speaker B: Yeah, the tea. Tea and hot water is usually available.
All right. But we're not there yet. We haven't gotten prevention yet.
We're just. What we're at right now is Usagi's expectations about what the pension is going to be. Going to be.
[00:20:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:27] Speaker B: And then. So Ray looks at the brochure and she says, well, I think. I think it is. It says, blue seas surround you as yachts go gliding by. From our luxurious tension house, you can view a beautiful sunset over a gleaming private beach. Usagi, giggling with short, excited breaths, repeats our own private beach. And then she goes into a fantasy sequence where we pan across.
[00:20:57] Speaker A: We pan across at least one daydream.
[00:20:59] Speaker B: Of healthy, tanned young men dressed only in their swim trunks, surrounding Usagi as she lays reclined in a beach chair, smiling while staring at the guys behind mirrored sunglasses. And the sunglasses have little white wings on sides of each lens.
[00:21:17] Speaker A: I thought that was adorable.
[00:21:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Motoki waves a fruity umbrella drink under her nose. She sits up and her glasses fly off when she spots Tuxedo Mask windsurfing on the ocean in front of her her eyes pop out in throbbing hearts.
[00:21:32] Speaker A: The wind surfing is probably my favorite moment.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: I know, she says. I can't wait. This is what I'm talking about. Yin Yang at the beach during summer break. She snaps out of it and runs up to catch up with Ami, Ray and Luna, who are far up ahead, walking into a wooded area.
[00:21:51] Speaker A: You know, as you do.
[00:21:52] Speaker B: And so then we cut to. A few clouds float in front of the sun, and Ray and Rey and Usagi are arguing about why it's taking so long to get to the hospital. Suddenly, dark clouds roll in, causing the forge to get nearly black.
Thunder looks like it's really going to come down on us. Lightning flashes. We better get going.
Usagi runs and cries that she's really afraid of thunder, which I think is funny because thunder isn't dangerous.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: No, but it's loud and scary.
[00:22:27] Speaker B: It's that dangerous. Nobody got hurt by thunder.
[00:22:32] Speaker A: I mean, maybe I did.
[00:22:35] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying?
[00:22:38] Speaker A: Well, you know what I. What I've heard about thunder.
What is that it only happens when it's raining.
[00:22:44] Speaker B: Happens when it's raining.
[00:22:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:46] Speaker B: And players only love you when they're playing.
[00:22:48] Speaker A: I've heard that.
[00:22:51] Speaker B: Women, they will come and they will go. All right, enough.
[00:22:56] Speaker A: We could go on, but we're not going to.
[00:22:57] Speaker B: Yeah. I could sing all the Dreams by Fleetwood Mac from beginning to end. So we don't need to do that.
Usagi screams and falls down after seeing a small girl about half as tall as Rey, hiding behind a tree. Her huge eyes lit up by the lightning as she stands motionless holding some purple and orange flowers. Rey says, who's there? And the rain starts pouring down. The gang follows the little girl into the forest and up a steep hill towards the outline of a large building sitting atop an oceanside rocky prominence.
[00:23:33] Speaker A: Can I make an observation? That really filled me with so much joy.
[00:23:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:39] Speaker A: Every single time. There's a thundercrack as they're walking across this little bridge to the promontory is what it's called.
Yeah. A point of high land that juts out into a large body of water.
[00:23:54] Speaker B: I had to look that up too. Yep.
[00:23:58] Speaker A: We did definitions today.
Anyways, Sailor Moon. Usagi. Her little feet go all scrambly.
I'm like, I love you, Usagi. You're so goofy.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: So at the top of the promontory reveals a Gothic revile style with pointed spires atop steep turrets along the Patriots perimeter.
I love that the science is Adams.
[00:24:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:35] Speaker B: Maybe Adams family. Exactly. Yeah.
[00:24:41] Speaker A: And I love that. Then Ray's like, this is where we have our reservation.
[00:24:46] Speaker B: Right. And I love that it's so Gothic Revival. For those of you who are not familiar with architecture, you're a little familiar with architecture. Yeah.
[00:24:57] Speaker A: Mas.
[00:24:58] Speaker B: Everybody kind of knows what Gothic means, you know what I mean? It's dark, it's got those sharp points, fires, stuff like that. And it was very common in United States Gothic Revival. What I learned was it was not very common in Japan at all.
There's really only one example of Gothic Revival, and that's the Asada Auditorium on the Hango campus of University of Tokyo, which is built in 1925.
They chose the red brick Gothic style building in the wake of the 1923 Great Kanto Earthquake. So we just see there's like. Earthquakes can be very interesting in terms of influencing architectural styles because when you have a bunch of buildings fall down, then they're all built at the same time. You'll get. That architectural style will become more prominent. This happened in San Francisco after the Great San Francisco Quaker. They rebuilt everything in the Victorian style. That's why San Francisco has so many Victorian houses.
[00:26:10] Speaker A: All right.
[00:26:12] Speaker B: However, in this case, Gothic Revival did not kept on in Japan.
[00:26:17] Speaker A: I mean. All right.
[00:26:19] Speaker B: But I mean, so I'm being. I'm being like scholarly about the fact that they're using a Western trope to kind of hint at the building being creepy. Yeah. This pension is looking more like a haunted house.
[00:26:34] Speaker A: Well, it's very. It's also very like. If you think about it, it's very like Dracula Transylvania sort of wise too.
[00:26:41] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah.
[00:26:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:46] Speaker B: Dracula's castle is also Gothic Revival.
So that makes perfect sense.
And I love that. All the way down to the gargoyle door knocker.
That's.
[00:26:57] Speaker A: Can I say something?
I love it so much. I have to say something about the door knocker because this is. Especially since it's around Halloween.
My mom, my bio mom has had this Halloween door knocker since I was a little kid. And it's like, you can't really put it up on the door and make it functional because it's made out of plastic. But it has this little button when you do the knocker, and it. It's like a creepy pumpkin and the door knockers in its mouth and it goes. When you hit the button, it goes, beware, welcome.
And seeing that Gothic like gargoyle door knocker, I was just like, my mom sends me a video of that same door knocker every single year on Halloween.
[00:27:51] Speaker B: So this is what I learned about lodging. Right?
[00:27:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:55] Speaker B: So basically, you have kind of three categories.
You have business hotels or hotels. You have pensions and you have hostels. And this is what I learned. Hotels run from about 50 to 300 a night per person. Pensions run from 40 to 150 a night per person. Hostels are about 30 to 100 per night per person. But hostels would be kind of a limited option at beaches. You wouldn't really find hostels at beaches.
[00:28:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:23] Speaker B: So the features of a pension are they're usually family run. You get a single room with TV set and a heater. You have shared toilets and bathrooms. Towels are provided in guest rooms and guests must carry the towel with them when using the bath. Toothbrush, toothpaste and facial soap are available at the communal sink.
Two where you're saying three meals served with seasonal local ingredients.
Hot water and tea bags are available. And because it's family run, guests shouldn't expect 24 hour service. That's kind of what they're dealing with, with attention.
So that sounds about right.
[00:29:01] Speaker A: Sounds about right.
[00:29:03] Speaker B: Yeah. So it's almost kind of like a bed and breakfast that has three meals instead of just one.
[00:29:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
So the intern has come back with an answer to your previous query. Okay, yes. So the train, the title on the train that you see says Kawago.
Pardon me? Kagawa. Go.
And that is a prefecture.
[00:29:34] Speaker B: Okay. It must be coastal.
[00:29:37] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And so it's a, it's a prefecture in Japan. So Tokyo is like its own little. Its own prefecture. And I'm looking at a map here basically. But when I was in Japan I went into Tokyo and then I also went down to Osaka and Hiroshima which are like more south.
Kagawa is like across a little, it's across a little body of water. It's like a little island in, outside of the regular main island of Japan. So yeah, they're, they're quite, quite a ways away from Juban. Yeah, it's a, it's a couple, couple hours.
[00:30:27] Speaker B: Couple hours. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So it's a lengthy kind of a, kind of a bold outing for a 14 year old girl.
There's no chaperone unless we don't know how Luna is. How old is Luna.
[00:30:43] Speaker A: In human years or cat years?
She is old enough to know better.
[00:30:57] Speaker B: But consider Luna a valid chaperone for their 14 year old daughter.
[00:31:06] Speaker A: Yes. I mean, okay, yes.
[00:31:09] Speaker B: Is Ray 16?
[00:31:10] Speaker A: No, they're all the same age.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: They're all 14. Ray is actual older. Okay.
[00:31:15] Speaker A: Yes.
She goes to a private like Catholic girl school. All that stuff, you know, you kind of. Well, she's acting A little older.
[00:31:24] Speaker B: She is more mature. I mean, she's. She's amico. So, you know that. That's a lot of responsibility for.
[00:31:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Her. She has a lot of. A lot of responsibility and a lot of religious education.
[00:31:39] Speaker B: Right, we'll get into that, too. That was another one of my deep dives. All right, so they use the door knocker. Door opens, and we get, welcome, welcome, welcome. 3. Welcome.
It's from a female vampire, a short male wolf man, and a short, short male Frankenstein's monster. I want to be clear. He's not Frank. When people say that's Frankenstein, it's not Dr. Victor. Frankenstein was just a regular human. Frankenstein is the doctor. Frankenstein's monster is the one that people dress up as in Halloween.
[00:32:17] Speaker A: But arguably, Frankenstein is a monster, just not the monster in the story.
[00:32:24] Speaker B: Right. I got you. Yeah. Not the one. That's the one that everybody thinks of.
[00:32:27] Speaker A: Yes. But, yeah, he is a monster, but not the monster.
[00:32:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Technically, Frankenberries have it wrong.
It should be called Frankenstein's monster berries.
[00:32:43] Speaker A: But maybe frankenberry is. I mean, obviously Count Chocula is not Dracula.
[00:32:50] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:32:51] Speaker A: So there you go.
[00:32:52] Speaker B: But, I mean, the argument can be made that Frankenstein's monster is actually Frankenstein, but I don't think that Dr. Frankenstein adopted him and gave him his surname. You know what I mean? And the monster's never named, as far as I know.
[00:33:08] Speaker A: Well, for the sake of this episode, we're gonna call him Frank.
Okay. Because they never get names.
This is some spooky, ooky monsters that greet us when they open the door. Never get named.
[00:33:26] Speaker B: Yeah. And in the dub, they refer to the female vampire as the owner of the pension.
[00:33:33] Speaker A: They do in the sub as well. They do mention that she is the owner, which will come up later on. Why they say that.
[00:33:41] Speaker B: That's confusing. That's confusing, though, because in a minute, we'll meet the little. The flower girl. We find out that her name. Right now, we find out her name is Sachiko because the hotel staff welcome her back home.
[00:34:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:01] Speaker B: They're like, welcome. Welcome back, Mr. Chico.
[00:34:03] Speaker A: And they say they're like, welcome.
[00:34:10] Speaker B: Yeah. And so it's like. Yeah. I was like, why is the hotel get. Why is the hotel staff dressed up for Halloween?
[00:34:17] Speaker A: It's just, why the heck not?
Because it's a pookie pension.
[00:34:23] Speaker B: Toshiko kind of quietly and obediently goes and reports to her father.
[00:34:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:30] Speaker B: And the father questions where she was, and he tells her, get over here.
[00:34:38] Speaker A: And he's spoopy. Yeah. He's got spooky vibes, but not quite vampire vibes. He's got more like. He's got, like, evil wizard vibes.
[00:34:48] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. That's good. Yeah. Evil wizard. That's kind of the vibe he's giving out.
[00:34:51] Speaker A: He's giving Saruman from Lord of the Rings.
[00:34:56] Speaker B: Rasputin.
[00:34:58] Speaker A: Rasputin.
Now, specifically, Rasputin from Anastasia.
[00:35:05] Speaker B: No, I was thinking of the one who worked for the Tsar.
[00:35:08] Speaker A: I mean, technically the same person, because Rasputin from Anastasia was.
[00:35:18] Speaker B: Right. The youngest daughter.
[00:35:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:22] Speaker B: Rasputin. Rasputin was from the tsar's court. Yes.
[00:35:26] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:35:27] Speaker B: Ra.
[00:35:27] Speaker A: Rasputin, lover of the Russian queen.
[00:35:30] Speaker B: Yeah. All right, so we saw you drying her hair in her inner room, and she plopped down and says she's exhausted and hungry.
[00:35:41] Speaker A: Which, coincidentally, I sent you a meme last week that had that exact same shot.
It was like, when people ask me how I'm doing, I'm tired and hungry. Like, yep, that's me.
[00:35:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Usagi tells Luna that she thinks the staff is creepy. She says, what if this place is haunted? Maybe we should leave.
And then, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, the vampire lady appears. And then all she does is change a light bulb. Yeah.
[00:36:14] Speaker A: She's like, excuse me, it's dark out here.
And then she invites them to dinner. She's like, oh, by the way, dinner's ready.
[00:36:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
This leads to Rei and Usagi yelling at each other because Rey is telling her to, you know, to settle down.
[00:36:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:30] Speaker B: And Usagi is getting spooked at everything that happens in this place.
[00:36:33] Speaker A: I mean, that's our girl. She's just a spooky cat. By spooky cat, I mean scaredy cat. She's a scaredy cat.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: So the father says, tsuchiko, don't you go getting involved with such foolish girls.
[00:36:47] Speaker A: Yeah, because they're looking. He, Sako, and her father are looking at the girl's fight through another window.
[00:36:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:55] Speaker A: Yeah. And he's just like, they're so noisy.
[00:36:58] Speaker B: You got your bed. That's all I'm thinking is, well, you run a bed and breakfast, dude. You have hotel guests.
[00:37:05] Speaker A: He's like, they're so loud. And she's like, well, they seem nice. He's like, no, they're not nice. Don't you ever go talk to them. Because they're not nice. And you shouldn't be friends with people.
I know.
Give her a hug.
[00:37:20] Speaker B: I love it. To make her seem more innocent, she's always carrying a little bouquet of flowers.
[00:37:24] Speaker A: Yes. And then, depending on how far Away the shot is it's either one solid color or multiple colors.
[00:37:30] Speaker B: Right.
[00:37:31] Speaker A: Because if it's close up, multiple colors, you got to put the detail in those flowers. If it's far away, one solid color, I'd waste time on that.
[00:37:39] Speaker B: They're purple in the log shot.
[00:37:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:43] Speaker B: So they're at the dinner table. Everybody's chowing down, and then Frank rolls in with a cart full of food. Anyone want seconds? And his creepy delivery spooks Usagi.
[00:37:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:00] Speaker B: She declines, which is very uncharacteristic of her. That tells you how scared she is.
[00:38:05] Speaker A: No, no, I'm full. Thank you. I'm full. What. Who are you? What have you done with Usagi? No. No.
[00:38:13] Speaker B: Clearly frightened and frustrated, asks Ray why they booked this pension. And Ray says, isn't it obvious? Because it was.
[00:38:20] Speaker A: It was cheap.
[00:38:21] Speaker B: And then Ami, always, always the peacemaker. Of course, she says, well, nevertheless, the food's great, and I like the costumes the staff wears. And staff member says, that's our selling point. It's our selling point. Exactly.
[00:38:40] Speaker A: Thank you. We try. They're like, feel it, dude. You may not have a lot of customers, but that's okay. You go the spirit.
[00:38:48] Speaker B: And they are.
[00:38:49] Speaker A: Because you had to put that wolfman outfit on every day.
[00:38:52] Speaker B: Exactly.
Nice one.
Everybody hears a wailing sound kind of a.
And die. Some. Somebody says, that must be the owner weeping. And then.
[00:39:05] Speaker A: And then the owner pops in from.
[00:39:06] Speaker B: Nowhere and says, no, that isn't me.
He says that she's her. Her only parent, so. So she's not married to the vampire lady.
[00:39:20] Speaker A: No, he is not.
So presumably, something happened her father or her mom in the past. Pardon me? Yeah, I don't know if you can. I don't know if you can see my camera.
[00:39:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I see what's going on. Yeah.
[00:39:38] Speaker A: So, you know, this is where we're at right now.
[00:39:42] Speaker B: Perfect. Perfect. All right. So the vampire lady says, no, that isn't me. And then Ray senses something, throws open a door so everyone can see a specter, like wicky white smoke shaped. Shaped in the head floating slowly through the hallway and up the stairs. And Usagi says, did you all see that? And the staff has their back turned, and they deny seeing anything.
[00:40:09] Speaker A: But you don't see anything. What are you talking about? No.
[00:40:13] Speaker B: Ami asked Ray if she thinks she's a monster, and Rey says, no, she's not sensing that there's any monsters here. But she did sense some kind of incredible power.
[00:40:24] Speaker A: Yeah. And, you know, we trust Ray in that assessment.
[00:40:28] Speaker B: All right, so that brings me to My next deep dive discussion about Rey. So Rey doesn't detect any monsters. Now this is because she's psychic, not. Not because she's Amiko. And Amiko is a Shinto, a temple priestess. So I didn't realize. I didn't realize that she was actually a priestess until I dug into it.
[00:40:53] Speaker A: Oh yeah.
[00:40:55] Speaker B: And so it's more than an altar boy. It's a more involved kind of thing.
She has a very specific duties.
[00:41:04] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:41:05] Speaker B: And so I learned that in the past, in ancient times, Miko acted as mediums to communicate.
To communicate the divine will or a message of a spirit or a kami, which a kami is deities, spirits, natural or supernatural forces in the Shinto religion. So Miko were.
They were mediums and they would communicate between the kami and the human.
But that doesn't have anything to do with her ability to sense monsters. Those are two separate things.
[00:41:43] Speaker A: Yeah. She's psychic on top of being very spiritual and having those abilities too, which makes her a good Miko. So hooray.
[00:41:52] Speaker B: Right. But not all, not all Mikos have that ability.
[00:41:55] Speaker A: No.
[00:41:56] Speaker B: Yeah. So just to be clear on that.
[00:41:59] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:42:00] Speaker B: If it's not a monster, if it's just a ghost, it would still be different. Because ghosts in kami are different. Yes. Kami are spirits.
Oftentimes spirits of it. It could be the spirit of an entire clan.
You know what I mean? That they're, that they're acting as a medium for. So it's, it's. It's just kind of a force of spiritual energy as opposed to an individual entity.
[00:42:26] Speaker A: Indeed.
[00:42:27] Speaker B: So we cut to. We cut you.
What happens next? We, you know, next.
[00:42:37] Speaker A: So next we cut to Takiko and her father.
[00:42:43] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:42:43] Speaker A: And her father is currently hypnotizing her for some undisclosed reason.
[00:42:50] Speaker B: Right.
[00:42:51] Speaker A: At this point. And.
Hold on. Drop my notes.
Situating cat. Hold on.
[00:43:04] Speaker B: Okay. I'll help you out here.
No problem.
[00:43:08] Speaker A: I'm back, I'm back. Okay.
[00:43:09] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:43:10] Speaker A: So, yeah, her father is hypnotizing her for some undisclosed reason. He's telling her to focus and fall deeper and deeper into sleep. And we see a close up on Sakiko right before it fades to black. Cuts out. And she's crying.
[00:43:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:27] Speaker A: And so whatever is happening in this hypnotization. Hypnosis, Hypnotization.
She's not happy about it.
[00:43:34] Speaker B: So, so what I have here. So we see that the father is dangling the coin to, you know, which we, we all, we all take that to mean hypnotizing.
[00:43:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:44] Speaker B: He just keeps saying, good girl, good girl.
Good girl. I see over and over again, right?
In a really kind of monotone voice. And all I could think of was, I don't know if you had ever did sports when you were younger, but at the end of the sporting match, you would have to line up.
[00:44:04] Speaker A: Good game.
[00:44:06] Speaker B: Good game. Good game, Good game. All I could think of, good game. There's a really.
There's an awesome scene of that in the movie Days and compute, it's such a. It's so well done when, when. When the little kid who's being terrorized by Ben Affleck has to. Has to. He's pitching the baseball game and he's trying to get out of there early so he doesn't get caught by Ben Affleck, but he's forced to stay on the field and wish everyone a good game. And essentially why. Good game, Good game, Good game. And you don't mean it because you either defeated the team that you're saying good game to, in which case it's just kind of a consolation, like, yeah, nice try.
Or if you're the losing team and you say good game, you don't mean it either because you got your ass kicked.
[00:45:00] Speaker A: It's all about good sportsmanship.
You want to make sure that everyone is happy and that, you know, you're not bitter about losing.
[00:45:10] Speaker B: Somebody should have told that to Jude McDonough because one time when we were doing that in hockey, he used it as an opportunity to punch and start a fight with one of the kids that he almost started to fight with during the hockey game.
[00:45:24] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness.
[00:45:25] Speaker B: Which to his credit, that's a good time to do it because our helmets and gloves were off at that time so he could do more damage. Hockey fights are kind of funny because you're so padded up you can't really do that much damage.
[00:45:38] Speaker A: But man, do they. Is there a lot of blood in hockey.
I remember being in soccer and doing the good game and whatnot, but my team sucked, so we never won. And, but my sister's team because she was playing soccer at the same time as me.
Her team won quite a bit, so she had like several little trophies and whatnot. And I remember just being so defeated because, one, I'm not a sports kid. It was. I was living in San Antonio. I was a stick thin, tiny, asthmatic child who was trying to run up and down the field in 100 degree weather.
It didn't work out for me. So I, yeah, I was one of those kids that. That I was so sad that I never won, that I Cried to my parents. I was like, I just want a trophy sometime in my life.
I don't understand. And my parents went and got me a you're. You're a star trophy.
[00:46:42] Speaker B: That's good parenting right there.
All right, we got to get. This episode is going to last forever. We got to.
[00:46:48] Speaker A: It's true. Okay.
[00:46:49] Speaker B: We got to buckle down. All right, so we come back. We come back from the commercial break. It's Skippy fun at the beach.
And that's when I notice. Notice the Usagi swimsuit. Because same one day, the model episode. Yay. Continuity.
[00:47:03] Speaker A: Yay.
[00:47:04] Speaker B: All right, so they're having a good time at the beach, but something's missing. And Usagi says, where are the yachts and the hot boys?
And Race says to Luna, can I bury her in the sand?
[00:47:17] Speaker A: And Usagi's like, I am so disappointed. This private beach is really, really private because it's only big enough for the. For the three of us and Luna.
[00:47:25] Speaker B: For the three of us. Yeah.
[00:47:27] Speaker A: And then she says, but I'm going to make the most of it. I don't care about false advertising. I'm going to have fun.
[00:47:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And you notice that there is no training going on. They're all just lounging at the beach.
[00:47:38] Speaker A: I think Luna, kind of after spookiness was just like, all right, no, this isn't going to happen.
[00:47:46] Speaker B: At this point, Ami notices that they didn't see Tsuchiko come out of her room this morning. And then Ray says, wait, hold on, Ami, can you bring some of your textbooks to the beach?
[00:47:58] Speaker A: She's like, yeah, why wouldn't I? I love studying.
[00:48:02] Speaker B: And then what is. Then what does Usagi say to Ami?
[00:48:05] Speaker A: She says, no studying on vacation because while studying is important. She says, study is. Studying is important, but I think it's just as important to have fun and make some memories. And then Rey says to Luna, oh, God. Usagi's being logical for once. What is happening?
[00:48:27] Speaker B: And that causes the army to give in. And they all play with the beach ball.
[00:48:32] Speaker A: Well. And then we learn Usagi is not good at catching, which we kind of already knew.
Sheesh. It's more like beach dodgeball. And Rei and Ami are on the other team.
[00:48:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Usagi's hit.
[00:48:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:48:49] Speaker B: All right. So then we cut to a sad little Tsukiko watching the girls from atop a cliff overlooking the beach.
[00:48:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:48:58] Speaker B: And then we cut to the wolfman bellhop who's perched on top of the pension roof, howling at the moon. And he said, nighttime has come again.
[00:49:10] Speaker A: I'm scared why is he. And here's the question. If it's just a costume, why is he on the roof?
[00:49:19] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:49:21] Speaker A: He's dedicated.
[00:49:23] Speaker B: Yeah, he definitely is. He definitely gets into. That's cosplay plus.
[00:49:27] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:49:27] Speaker B: So then we see Ray is exercising the dining room with no food, which are those little strips of paper.
[00:49:35] Speaker A: Yes.
She says. She says akir Thysan, which is her little.
[00:49:43] Speaker B: It's kind of a ward. She's kind of setting up a ward to keep the dining room safe from evil spirits.
[00:49:48] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:49:50] Speaker B: And then Ami notices Tsuchiko all alone, staring at the ocean and.
[00:49:55] Speaker A: Oh, wait, wait, wait. You missed one other thing with Rey in the dining room. She overhears some talking in the other room, and she peeks in and she sees our vampire owner, our wolfman bellhop, and our Frankenstein's monster, Frank, hatching some sort of plan or planning something.
And she overhears them and is like. And they're like, wait, we should do it. We should just do it. We should just go through with it. But we can't let those girls know.
[00:50:26] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's.
So Ray notices there's something suddenly. The foot. And they're trying to keep it from the guest.
[00:50:34] Speaker A: Yeah. And she's like, yeah. And then finding Sakiko looking very sad on the cliff that she was at earlier that day.
[00:50:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Ami says hi, and then Sachiko IGs the whole gang. She's like. And she. She calls Rey the mature one, and Luna the cat and stuff like that. And Ami's like, how did you know my name?
[00:51:05] Speaker A: It was just, oh, I was watching you all day.
[00:51:08] Speaker B: Right. That's.
[00:51:09] Speaker A: How Creepy.
[00:51:10] Speaker B: Right? But that doesn't tell her the names. She obviously picked up the names because she has some psychic powers herself.
[00:51:17] Speaker A: So.
[00:51:17] Speaker B: Clear. That's what I took from that.
And so Ami asked her if she has any friends, and she says no. And Ami says that, you know, I used to be kind of a loner myself, but things have changed since I met Usagi.
[00:51:30] Speaker A: Yeah. And she said, you should be friends with Usagi because she makes everyone feel very happy.
[00:51:36] Speaker B: I like that. I like that a lot.
That's kind of.
I wish I was known for that. You know, same. You should become friends with Hollywood Mike, because I don't think I make everyone very happy, though. I don't think that's the truth.
[00:51:51] Speaker A: You may be happy.
[00:51:52] Speaker B: Oh, thank you.
And so Tsukiko is kind of encouraged by this. And then all of a sudden, their father shows up. Tsukiko, how many times have I told you not to talk to strangers. And he grabs Tsukiko's hand and says to Ami, I suggest you girls leave this place right away. That is, unless you want something really terrifying to happen.
[00:52:20] Speaker A: Yeah. He straight up threatens her, and I'm like, excuse me, do you know who she is? Excuse me.
This is Ami. She doesn't mess around. Okay.
[00:52:32] Speaker B: Yeah, but he. You know, he just wants to. He just doesn't want Sakiko distracted.
[00:52:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:39] Speaker B: And he doesn't want the noisy girls there anymore. He's had enough of them.
[00:52:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:43] Speaker B: So he drags Shikiko away, and she's like, but, Father, Ami and your friends are really nice. And she says that we should all be friends. Her father tells her that she has great psychic powers and that he wants to help her learn to control these powers with hypnosis.
[00:53:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:01] Speaker B: Then he hypnotizes her. He's going to show everyone who ever doubted them, and she's going to become the world's leading psychic.
[00:53:09] Speaker A: Turns out dad is an emotionally abusive asshole who is using his daughter for revenge.
[00:53:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Gross.
His own Bruce Dior that's on the line.
[00:53:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:24] Speaker A: And so, you know, who cares if my daughter cries?
I'm gonna show them.
[00:53:28] Speaker B: It's kind of like they laughed at me at the university. I'll show them.
[00:53:34] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:53:35] Speaker B: Yeah. All right. So then. Then Usagi stumbles upon the hotel staff, worshiping a shrine of candles, pumpkin, two carrots, and two radishes.
[00:53:44] Speaker A: Yeah. They're doing something, and it's weird. And Usagi is terrified.
[00:53:51] Speaker B: So they're all stuff. Wolfman and Frank are worshipping this altar that they've created. And in the dub version, it's great. This is what I have to do. I'm going to do the whole routine.
[00:54:02] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:54:03] Speaker B: This is what. This is what they say. Jibba jabba jibber joe. Eeny meeny miny mo. Gotta grab a. Gotta go.
PETA meta tiny toe. Jibba jabba jibber Joe.
[00:54:16] Speaker A: I mean, of course everybody knows that spell.
[00:54:21] Speaker B: And they just keep chanting that over and over again.
Usagi screams. She clutches Ray, and she says, see? These people are all monsters. And Ray says, calm down. These are all normal people. But what's more important is there's an important. There's an incredible force generated in this place.
[00:54:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:42] Speaker B: And then Ray kind of gets a look on her face, like she senses something, and she says, something is coming. And at that point, the wind blows through its slice and slices. The ofuda dining room tables start to vibrate. They fly up in the air and begin swirling around.
We cut to the father saying, cut. The father who has hypnotized her now got her under his spell. Now use your psychic powers to create a ghost.
And I have an issue. I know we have to stop right here.
[00:55:16] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:55:17] Speaker B: I got an issue with this. That's not how ghosts work.
[00:55:21] Speaker A: No. Well, I mean. Okay, okay.
Actually, this is something. This is a special interest of mine.
It is technically how poltergeists work, because. Poltergeists. Poltergeists, per definition, are the manifestation of energy, typically from an adolescent that is manifesting outside of their body. So if they are going through some, like, emotional turmoil or a bad home life or whatever, and they can't let that out, that energy can't. It does have the potential to come out as a separate entity causing issues in the house. Does it have a corporeal form? No or no? Well, not. None of ghosts. No. Ghosts have corporeal forms. That was the wrong word. Does it have a. Like, a visible form that you can see? Not really, but it does cause things, like, for a. Something to get thrown across the room or knocked off a shelf or stuff like that. So technically. Technically, poltergeist work like that.
[00:56:26] Speaker B: Well, in the. In the movie Poltergeist, you can actually see them. You know, they're. They're. They're not. They're not solid entities. They're not. They don't materialize into this world. They're kind of like. Kind of like spirits that are halfway in this world and halfway somewhere else. But that's a good. That's a good answer to my question, because these were my thoughts about entities. Right. I wrote ghosts are created that the spirits of dead people who haunt places of significance for when they were alive, spirits can. And I wrote, spirits can be channeled. Yoma can be summoned. Demons can be summoned. Ghouls and goblins should be sent from another dimension into the material world. So.
And I just wrote, hypnotism is suggested. You nudges behavior that's already there. You know what I mean?
Hypnotism doesn't grant you the ability to create a ghost. No, that's. Yeah. So that's. It's a flawed premise. We'll just leave it at that.
[00:57:28] Speaker A: It is. Yes. I could just. So everybody else, where. I could do an entire episode of a. I can do an entire podcast just about gushing about ghosts. So it's. Aside from Sailor Moon and, you know, video games, paranormal entities are my. It's one of my special interests. So.
[00:57:54] Speaker B: So you agree. You agree that this is a flawed premise. There Isn't some kind of. Some kind of cultural background where ghosts are created through hypnotism?
It's just for the purpose of this story of the overbearing father forcing his girl, his daughter, to do something against her will. For sure. They chose. It's okay.
[00:58:20] Speaker A: And I mean, you could technically, like, do some sort of, like, astral projection shit and leave your body in that way, but that's clearly not what's happening.
[00:58:30] Speaker B: You wouldn't have to be under the influence of hypnosis to do that.
[00:58:34] Speaker A: It's true. Well, I mean, you might. It would definitely help because it'd put you in a more suggestive state and have that ability to be a little more open to that. If you buy into that stuff.
[00:58:44] Speaker B: Fair enough.
[00:58:45] Speaker A: But I mean, as far as the entity that we experience in this episode, I would definitely qualify it as a poltergeist since it's technically a manifestation of her negative emotions towards her father.
[00:58:58] Speaker B: Definitely. Definitely.
[00:59:00] Speaker A: I've written research papers on this because I'm a fucking nerd.
[00:59:04] Speaker B: See? Good. I'm saying I'm talking to the right person. So you agree with me that. So in the end, we can just say that in this episode, the main idea of the narrative is a flawed premise.
[00:59:15] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:59:16] Speaker B: Okay, great.
[00:59:18] Speaker A: Not that Magical Girls is necessarily a premise that can exist in this world, but anyways, that's not where we're here. We're here to love.
[00:59:25] Speaker B: It has its. It has its own. It has its own lore.
There's really no precedence in horror fiction for hypnotism leading to the creation of Ghost.
[00:59:36] Speaker A: Fair. That's fair.
[00:59:38] Speaker B: Now, one could argue that there is. Now that this episode has come out, they've been established a precedent. But I don't know that Sailor Moon could be used like a Supreme Court case.
[00:59:51] Speaker A: No, probably not. But for the premise of this argument here, the ability to summon ghosts with hypnosis has been a premise since August 1, 1992.
[01:00:05] Speaker B: Very good.
All right. All right. So this brings us to the fight. We can go through this. We can go through this pretty quick. It's a pretty standard fight.
[01:00:14] Speaker A: Oh, yes.
[01:00:14] Speaker B: Takika blasts on me outside the windows. Ghost advise by the dining room and get by the dining room guest. And knocks the father outside. Ghost chases after the father army and Randy saggy transform.
MTA doesn't work.
[01:00:31] Speaker A: No, because you can't use a tiara on non corporeal entities.
[01:00:37] Speaker B: Exactly.
[01:00:38] Speaker A: They're non corporeal.
[01:00:42] Speaker B: Mars and get knocked into the bushes.
The father tells Tsukiko the ghost is too powerful and at that point, the father apologizes to Tsukiko for forcing her to use her psychic powers.
Tsukiko yells, go away. To the ghost, and the ghost disappears. So that's the whole fight.
[01:01:02] Speaker A: Pretty much. I like the fact that Ami or Sailor Mercury says after. After Mars and Moon get knocked into the bushes. She's just like. Sakiko's will to disobey her father has become so strong that it's become uncontrollable.
Imagine if he did this when she was like a teenager. Her will to disobey her father. Good, Good Lord.
[01:01:29] Speaker B: I think Ami's a little impressed, because it would never occur to Ami to disobey her parents.
[01:01:34] Speaker A: It's true.
She'd be like, what? No, I love my mom.
[01:01:39] Speaker B: And this would just reinforce that. Be like, see what happens when you disobey?
[01:01:43] Speaker A: You summon ghosts while you're hypnotized.
[01:01:47] Speaker B: So that's the fight. The Sailor Guardians all transformed, but for really no reason. All it took was the father to apologize to his daughter and one little.
[01:01:57] Speaker A: Girl to believe in herself.
[01:01:59] Speaker B: That's right.
All right, so the ghost, in a.
[01:02:04] Speaker A: Way, Sakiko was Sailor Moon, and her father, in a way, was Tuxedo Mask, instilling hope in her.
[01:02:12] Speaker B: So that was. That was my next. That was my next question was this. So when Sailor Moon transformed to fight the ghost, what happened to Tuxedo Mask?
Did Mamaru take a knee and have the rainbow spaghetti hit him? And he transformed into Tuxedo Mask, but didn't know where to. Didn't know where to go. You'd have to get on a train.
I'll be there in a couple hours. He probably.
[01:02:44] Speaker A: I want to cut away like. Like in After Credits where he's just. It's just like sitting down a train on a bullet train going, well, hope they're still around.
And then like. And then like, you know, an hour in the transformation just goes away because. Because, you know, they're out of danger. And so he's just like, where am I?
[01:03:13] Speaker B: Because we never see it fade. We never see them transform back into regular girls. Maybe.
You don't have to tell me. I doubt we'll ever see it. There's probably a detail that will always be left for to our imaginations.
[01:03:28] Speaker A: What? Them detransforming? Yeah, I mean, maybe is what I'm going to say. Maybe.
[01:03:38] Speaker B: All right, so the. So. So the Ghost is defeated.
They never really had to transform in the first place. Although it probably gave them some defensive skills.
[01:03:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:03:48] Speaker B: You know, it makes them look cool.
[01:03:49] Speaker A: It makes them Feel special. It was technically part of the training camp.
[01:03:53] Speaker B: There you go.
[01:03:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:03:54] Speaker B: But they failed miserably.
Ray and Ami Mars and Mercury didn't even cast a spell.
[01:04:03] Speaker A: No, they didn't.
But, I mean, Ray did some psychic stuff, so I guess she did.
[01:04:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:04:11] Speaker A: ABHI brought a textbook. It's fine.
[01:04:15] Speaker B: But Ray did that as Rey, not as Sailor Mars.
[01:04:18] Speaker A: Listen, I'm just. I'm trying.
This is probably what Luna's doing, too, you know. What? Probably. Who paid for this is probably the mysterious organization that Luna is reporting to.
[01:04:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:04:32] Speaker A: And so she had to, like, when she was filling out the expense report, she had to, like, justify it in some way. And so she was like, yeah, and Sailor Marge did this, and it was really helpful. And there was a ghost, and they.
[01:04:43] Speaker B: Really fought hard, like, totally just buying the expense report.
[01:04:49] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[01:04:50] Speaker B: Perfect.
[01:04:51] Speaker A: Perfect.
[01:04:52] Speaker B: I'll buy that. All right, so that leads with Usagi asking, so what were the staff doing before? And Ray says, they were probably performing an exorcism to get rid of the ghost. Usagi said, I know that.
All right. Then we cut to the girls playing ball with Sakiko. And the staff says, staff says to the father, are you sure the ghosts are gone? We like working here, but ghosts and monsters scare scare us the most.
[01:05:21] Speaker A: We are actually super afraid of those things that we dress up as on a regular basis.
[01:05:28] Speaker B: That's probably quite true.
[01:05:29] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, yeah, but. And yeah, that's kind of. That's kind of where it ends. It's there and it's.
[01:05:36] Speaker B: The mother says, don't worry, you won't see them here ever again. And then it cuts to an audio track of the girls giggling over a freeze frame. Sailor Scouts Tsukiko and Luna playing on.
[01:05:50] Speaker A: The beach after Usagi is the only person on her dodgeball team. One more time.
[01:05:57] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:05:58] Speaker A: Yeah. And then.
[01:06:01] Speaker B: But it's really cute because Tsiko's laughing and he's talking like, oh, Sachiko, you think it's funny, huh?
[01:06:10] Speaker A: He's like, I'll show you.
[01:06:12] Speaker B: You know, which just goes to show that Sachiko has been included in their little group of friends. And, you know, she looks forward to having friends in the future.
[01:06:20] Speaker A: And, you know, they're going to keep in contact. That's who Usagi is. She's like, yeah, I've met you for 10 minutes. You are now my friend.
[01:06:31] Speaker B: Exactly. Exactly.
[01:06:33] Speaker A: That's who she is.
[01:06:34] Speaker B: Perfect. All right. And then the only other detail is, next week, the Sailor Guardians visit an animation studio.
[01:06:42] Speaker A: Ooh, so exciting. This is. This is another one of those episodes that I'm not quite familiar with. There's like a good chunk in between in. In the nephrite art that I'm not as familiar with because I didn't have the vhs and there were a lot of these episodes that were cut out too. So.
[01:06:56] Speaker B: Go on.
[01:06:56] Speaker A: It's pretty exciting. It's like I've only seen a couple of. There's a couple of episodes that I've only seen a handful of times. And so it's going to be an adventure being able to re experience them and get your insights and all that stuff. I'm very excited.
[01:07:09] Speaker B: Yay. You want to talk about social media?
[01:07:12] Speaker A: Heck yes. Okay, so as you guys know, we do have a Facebook page. It's facebook.com across the Moonaverse. Mike is currently in charge of updating that and he's doing a wonderful job. My notifications are blowing up and it's cool. So, yeah, we're definitely down to interact with y'all in on that forum. We also do X. I'm in charge of that, which means that it's usually a lot more quiet because I suck, but not really.
But we encourage you guys to interact with us wherever you can using the hashtag mooneycast. That's M O O N I E Cast.
And of course, you can always go to our website where we have every episode posted. That's across the mooniverse.castos.com and we try to be consistent with our every other Monday fun times. Yeah, we don't always succeed, but we'll still keep trying.
[01:08:13] Speaker B: We're doing. We're doing better. We're doing better. I just want to wish everyone a very happy Moon Day and we'll see you again in two weeks.
[01:08:20] Speaker A: Happy Moon Day. See you all soon. And happy belated Halloween. Yay.
Bye, everyone.
