Episode 13

June 03, 2024

01:24:28

Ep 13 - Return from the Eternal Sleep! Goodbye, Jadeite!

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Maddie Mike
Ep 13 - Return from the Eternal Sleep! Goodbye, Jadeite!
Across the Mooniverse
Ep 13 - Return from the Eternal Sleep! Goodbye, Jadeite!

Jun 03 2024 | 01:24:28

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In this episode, we discuss Episode 13 - Girls Unite: The End of Jadeite

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We also discuss our extended hiatus, the vast ways that the world has changed and our undying desire to talk about and share Sailor Moon with the entire world!

New Episodes Every Other Moonday! The Cosmos can make us late, but it can't make us stop! :D

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[00:00:01] Speaker A: We are the super nerdy sailor guardians who fight for love and justice. And this is across the mooniverse. That's the fade in that tells you you're back. [00:00:26] Speaker B: We're back. [00:00:27] Speaker A: Ha ha. Hello, and welcome to across the Moonaverse. I am Maddie. And I'm Mike, and we're here recording. But not the same, but same. [00:00:43] Speaker B: Same two people, although changed by life. [00:00:47] Speaker A: Yes. [00:00:48] Speaker B: Yes. [00:00:50] Speaker A: And by location. [00:00:52] Speaker B: True, true. Yes. I am now. I am now in Seattle. [00:00:55] Speaker A: Yeah. And I am in my own place and not my parents house anymore, which is cool. [00:01:03] Speaker B: That's called an upgrade. All right. [00:01:07] Speaker A: I have two cats. [00:01:10] Speaker B: Good for you. Let's. Let's. Matty, let's talk a little bit about why the hiatus occurred and why we're back. And so, for me, life happened, and then the pandemic happened, and then that had a huge impact on my life, and I ended up moving to Seattle to kind of hit restart on everything. And that's what I've been doing for the last year and a half, last 18 months. I have been rebuilding my life, and it's going good now, and I'm in a place where I'm stable and I'm happy, and I'm ready to return to our show, because it was. There was. That was, like, the one good thing in my life when we were doing it, and so I really wanted. I never. I know you feel the same way, but you can speak for yourself. I never let go of the idea of continuing the show. It was. In my heart. It was. The show was still active. We were. [00:02:07] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:02:08] Speaker B: I'd say it was a sabbatical, but I believe the sabbatical is only one year. [00:02:14] Speaker A: It was. I mean, if you think of the fact that the pandemic stole time from all of us. Same, same, but different. [00:02:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:30] Speaker A: Yeah. What about me? I mean, I'm so excited to hear you're doing well, because there was a. There was a chunk of chime in there that we weren't in, like, normal contact with each other. [00:02:43] Speaker B: Correct. I was. Circumstances for me were such that I ended up. I ended up being homeless, and I lived in a tent just outside of the Vancouver public Library in downtown Vancouver for a while, and I've come a long way since then. I got my own. Got my own apartment. I got a job. I'm like a regular citizen of the. [00:03:06] Speaker A: For me, I, uh. I mean, I think last we recorded, I was in security. And then, uh, that pandemic happened, um, and that was, uh, chaos. And then I was unemployed for a whole year. And just, like, making ends meet, doing odd jobs and whatnot for family, and. And, yeah, I did door dash for a while. That was. That sucked. [00:03:38] Speaker B: That sounds interesting. Any good stories? [00:03:41] Speaker A: I got a gun pulled on me when I went to go deliver cookies. [00:03:46] Speaker B: Well, that's definitely a story. I would know. Call it a good story. Yeah. For cookies, nonetheless. [00:03:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I think what happened, it was somebody was delivering cookies to somebody else, but didn't tell them or something, and it was late at night, and ify was closed, so I had to go the long way to get to this person. Finally showed up, knocked on the door. When I knocked on the door, the lights turned out. I was like, that's weird. And then. Yeah. And I was just like, well, you know, doordash policy. I gotta stand here for, like, ten minutes to. To make sure that, you know, maybe they're in the shower or something. I don't know. [00:04:31] Speaker B: But we can't really see because I'm pretty sure when I've had doordash, they literally throw it up onto the porch and run away. [00:04:38] Speaker A: Well, I mean, you have to understand, this was, like, if. Well, I don't know. It's weird. So, like, if you. If you go there and you, like, knock and you try to deliver, and you say they didn't answer, if it's, like, a hand to me at the door, which very few people use, including myself, then when they don't answer, you have to say in the app, like, don't answer. And then it gives you a timer, and you can't abandon the order until the timer is done. [00:05:12] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:05:13] Speaker A: So I was standing there, and I was just kind of waiting, and I was just like, well, I guess I'll just wait here with these cookies from crumble. And then a couple minutes later, the lights turned back on, and I was like, okay. Okay. That's weird. So I knocked again, and I just waited. The lights turned back off, and I'm like, this is so weird. What's going on? And then I see, like, flashlights in the house, and I'm like, super weird. [00:05:44] Speaker B: Super weird. Yeah. [00:05:45] Speaker A: About a couple seconds later, the door opens, and I'm, like, looking down, because I was just kind of, like, you know, looking around going, oh, gotta wait here. And the first thing I see is this adorable Corgi coming out the door at me, and I was just like, oh, hi. And then I, like, so excited about this dog because me. And then I look up, and this guy who answers the door is lowering, like, rifle from my. Being pointed at me, and he's got, like, another in his other hand, like a. Like a handgun in his other hand. He's like, oh, my God. I'm so sorry. And I was just like, hi. Doordash your crumble cookies. And he was just like, I'm so sorry. Oh, my God. [00:06:29] Speaker B: He wasn't trying to rob you. He thought you were. You were. [00:06:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Like a shooter or something, right? Yeah, yeah. And, yeah, it was just wild. And so, you know, that happened. And then shortly after that, I walked back to the car because I was door. It was at night, and I never doordashed at night without someone else in the car with me. And at this point, it was my mom and Amy, who is my other mom, right. She's my mom's best friend. But, you know, they were in the car with me. So when I'm walking back to the car, it had already been like, eight minutes, and my mom didn't know what was going on, and she was calling me right at the same time that this guy answered the door. So I'm talking to the guy, and he's, like, calling me, and as I'm walking away after giving and stuff, he's like, I'm gonna give. Like, he offered me some of the cookies, and then he was like, I'm gonna. He was like, I'm gonna tip you so well. I'm so sorry. And I was like, oh, thank you so much. Whatever. This is a weird experience. I think I'm in shock. And then I come around the corner, and my mom's walking up, and she's got. Because she's got her concealed carry, and so she's got her. She's got her gun in her hand. She's like, what happened? What's going on? And I was like, everything's fine. Everything's fine. Chill. It's good. [00:07:57] Speaker B: This is why I don't like guns. I mean, among other things. But, I mean, the chances that. The chances of you being a real intruder are so low, you know what I mean? The. I mean, most. Most gunshot victims are. It's their own gun. Did you know that? [00:08:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I did know that. [00:08:16] Speaker B: Anyway, we don't have to go into. We don't have to go into any kind of firearms lobbying or anything like. [00:08:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:24] Speaker B: My story. My story is I don't have any. Any good stories or bad stories like that. Just kind of sad stories of. [00:08:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:31] Speaker B: Being, you know, being down on my luck. But that changed, and things are going good now. Now, during that time while I was. While I've been repairing and rebuilding, I discovered. And this is almost entirely because of sailor moon anime. And so I am now a bit more. I won't have as many questions about anime in general. I've seen some other magical girl stuff, and I like it. [00:09:00] Speaker A: Now you truly understand the swirly eyes. [00:09:04] Speaker B: Correct. [00:09:04] Speaker A: The Thurley glasses. It makes sense now. [00:09:07] Speaker B: They do. I'm not. Well, only because I don't know that I like them. I won't say that I like them, but I know. I understand how they're used. [00:09:16] Speaker A: Yes. [00:09:17] Speaker B: So I'm not as critical of them. So. And there are, you know, there's tropes. There's. I see that there's certain things that are. That are common storytelling elements. [00:09:29] Speaker A: Yes. Learning. [00:09:32] Speaker B: Learning. Yeah. And I forget the term. There's different. There's terms like Moe and stuff like that. And I'm starting to learn all that stuff too. I mean, it definitely isn't, you know, when you think about it, at least for Americans, Sailor Moon was an introduction to it. There's a huge culture in Japan. [00:09:52] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Yeah. [00:09:54] Speaker B: What Americans call comic books and cartoons. They, you know, they call manga and anime. [00:10:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:02] Speaker B: But, you know, but now you look and it has. It has definitely become an american thing too. And there's. There's tons of. There's tons of anime available that it's been. It's been dubbed and. Or had subtitles put. Put to it. [00:10:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:19] Speaker B: And I. [00:10:19] Speaker A: And some of it's produced in America now. [00:10:22] Speaker B: Some of it is produced in America. Some of it seems to. Some of it seems to me to be produced in Japan. But. But it's geared for an american audience. [00:10:30] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. And some of it is just that weird, wonderful stuff. And some of it is anime. [00:10:42] Speaker B: So far, of the ones I've seen, my favorite one was one called Ergo proxy. [00:10:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:50] Speaker B: It's pretty cool. It was a, it was a post apocalyptic dystopian. You know, it had, it had, it had androids in it and that were never human like. And they. I'm not gonna go into it, but it was, I would say, check it out to anybody who's. [00:11:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:10] Speaker B: Who's into science fiction because it was good Sci-Fi anime. [00:11:15] Speaker A: So speaking of Sci-Fi you know what I. Speaking of things that I've gotten that have, I have a graphic novel version of Brave New World and it's fascinating if you've ever read the original novel and then to see it as a graphic novel and then. [00:11:36] Speaker B: Who wrote your. Was that Huxley? [00:11:38] Speaker A: Yeah, Huxley. [00:11:39] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. [00:11:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:41] Speaker B: George, the perception guy. Yeah. [00:11:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Huxley's. Huxley's dystopia is actually my preferred dystopia. If I had to pick between that and 1984. [00:11:52] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, I've read 1984. We had you ready to read it in. In middle school. [00:11:59] Speaker A: Same. [00:11:59] Speaker B: But I never. I never read brave new World. [00:12:02] Speaker A: I highly recommend it. Or if. Go ahead, peacock. It's. There's a. There's a show on peacock that is pretty. Pretty true to the adaptation. It does take some liberties. And I haven't quite finished it yet, but I was enjoying it quite a bit. [00:12:20] Speaker B: I'll probably just read it, because, you know, I like. I do like to read the originals when it comes to social. That has so much in it, doesn't it? [00:12:31] Speaker A: Yep. [00:12:31] Speaker B: Brave new world. Okay. That's where Selma comes from. All right. [00:12:34] Speaker A: Yeah. It is, uh, one of my favorite books. I read it in summer school when I was a sophomore in high school. [00:12:42] Speaker B: There's a, um. There's a muscle relaxant whose brand name is Selma. [00:12:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I believe it. Yeah. [00:12:49] Speaker B: And I was described it, and I would say it's pretty close to what they just did. Knocked. It knocked me out of reality, I'll tell you that. [00:12:56] Speaker A: It made all your bad feelings go away. [00:12:59] Speaker B: It did. Yeah. Driving skills go away. [00:13:02] Speaker A: I mean, that's why they put it on the labels. [00:13:06] Speaker B: I know those warnings. I didn't. I didn't know those were for me, too, so. All right, well, that's. That's. That's kind of. We wanted to just. Just address the audience. Hi, guys. Thanks for listening. And we're back. We're committed. We're committed to doing the show on a regular basis again. [00:13:25] Speaker A: Hell, yeah. I. Oh, I don't work for Doordash anymore. I want to. I never clarified at the end of that story. I actually work in property management right now, which is a lot of conflicted feelings about the field. But you know what? It pays the bills, and I get my own desk where I decorate with Sailor Moon, so it's probably that dangerous, too, I would think in some ways. [00:13:58] Speaker B: That'S true. [00:13:59] Speaker A: Yeah. But, yeah, no, and I. I talk about our podcast all the time at work, because I'm constantly just like, let me tell you, I've done this podcast. I talked about it today at the store, because the guy, the cashier at the store, asked me what I was doing later, and I was like, oh, I'm recording a podcast with my friend, and it's about Sailor Moon. And he was like, oh, really? Da da da da. He got really excited talking to me about it. And, like, really jazzed about nineties, like, magical girl anime. And I was like, well, you know, it's a call across the Moonaverse. It's kind of lame or whatever, but you can check it out. [00:14:36] Speaker B: Is that lame? [00:14:38] Speaker A: Really, really? Hope he wasn't, like, trying to flirt with me or anything because I'm not available. [00:14:44] Speaker B: There you go. There you go. All right, so let's. Let's. Let's get into it. I mean, so. So. Just so everybody understands, in keeping with the spirit of the show, I have not really looked ahead. Now, to be fair, just. Just to catch you guys up, we did record. We did record episodes for. [00:15:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:04] Speaker B: Or 1314, 1516 and 17. Yeah, we did. We recorded shows for others, but they never got edited. And we decided. We decided to go back and to where the last published one was, which was episode twelve. [00:15:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:20] Speaker B: So we're gonna. We're gonna start over with 13 and we're just gonna archive the old. The old stuff because the references and the jokes and, you know, any kind of. Any kind of cultural references and stuff like that have changed so dramatically because the world has changed so much in the last few years. So I do know a little bit about what happens ahead of this episode, but only a couple episodes ahead. [00:15:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:44] Speaker B: I'm not like Maddie. Who knows. Who knows every word of every episode inside and out? [00:15:48] Speaker A: I will say I have not. I don't think I've actually sat down and watched Taylor Moon, aside from the movies, since the last time we recorded. [00:15:59] Speaker B: Okay. [00:16:00] Speaker A: So I went back and watched this episode, and it was. It. Yeah. There's no way we could have ever salvaged the old recordings because this episode. And I assume a lot of the episodes going forward are gonna hit a lot differently, right. In this day and age, it's a whole different world. It's a whole different ballgame, and we're whole different people. And I'm excited because, you know what hasn't changed? How much I love Sailor Moon. [00:16:32] Speaker B: That's great. [00:16:33] Speaker A: In fact, it's gotten more intense, I would say. [00:16:37] Speaker B: You know what I would say for me, I have a whole new level of appreciation now that I have. Have embraced anime. Yeah. So I. I mean, I like what. How much. How much Sailor Moon set the standard for certain things. [00:16:53] Speaker A: Sure. [00:16:54] Speaker B: You know, and so. Or at least for me personally, I don't know if it's true in general, but, you know, it made anime a lot easier for me to accept because I. You know, the thing is, the fact of the matter is, if this. If the whole point of this podcast was we. We do it. Until you have convinced me that Sailor Moon is a good thing, then we really could have ended that at episode two. [00:17:19] Speaker A: We didn't need to record a single episode because you already knew. [00:17:23] Speaker B: I was already. I was already pretty convinced at the end of the musical. [00:17:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:30] Speaker B: But I still think it's fun. I still think it's fun to go through and. And criticize some of the choices they made when they. When they made the anime. [00:17:40] Speaker A: Oh, sure. [00:17:41] Speaker B: And also just to discuss how they presented it to Americans, you know? [00:17:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:47] Speaker B: Just to me, at least to me, that's kind of fascinating. [00:17:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:52] Speaker B: It says a lot, you know, and we'll talk about that, because in this episode, there's definitely. There's some. Some. There's some misogyny and some girl power, and that brings us hell. [00:18:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:06] Speaker B: This is season one, episode 13. [00:18:08] Speaker A: Yes, it is. [00:18:09] Speaker B: Girls unite. End of Jade. [00:18:12] Speaker A: Oh, it rhymes so good. [00:18:15] Speaker B: I made it rhyme. I don't think you pronounce it j died. [00:18:18] Speaker A: I mean, it is. If you pronounce it the japanese way. Jaido. [00:18:21] Speaker B: Yeah. And so watching the. Watching the intro, I couldn't help but notice there was a carpeterigible. [00:18:29] Speaker A: Every time since here to. [00:18:33] Speaker B: God, it looks like. It looks like an airship, and. [00:18:41] Speaker A: It'S just. My life is forever altered thanks to your weird observations of the world around you. [00:18:51] Speaker B: You can't deny that it's. Whatever it is, is ascending. It's floating up like a drink. [00:18:57] Speaker A: It is. [00:18:58] Speaker B: Okay. Maybe it's like a chinese lantern. Maybe it's got a candle inside of it. [00:19:03] Speaker A: It might. [00:19:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:05] Speaker A: I don't know. It's magic, baby. [00:19:07] Speaker B: That's enough for this episode. We'll talk more about carpentry, of course. So when I was watching, I also. We've never talked about this, which is at the end of the. At the end of the intro, we now see the girls in the first few episodes. They were. They were. They're silhouetted out. [00:19:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:26] Speaker B: We could. We couldn't see who they were, but at the very end, sailor moon strikes her pose. And how would you describe. Because you can do the pose instance for you. It's like second nature, but it's basically she's making, like, a peace sign, and she's. And it's. It's. It. She runs it across her forehead. So it's turned sideways, right? Yeah, it's a piece that. [00:19:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like the. The thumb is also extended, right? [00:19:53] Speaker B: Yeah. With thumb is in. You're right. Yeah. So it's the thumb and the first two fingers are extended, and then. And then she. And then she's. She basically sets it in front of her forehead so it's sideways. [00:20:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:06] Speaker B: And that's her little. That's just her little move. [00:20:09] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like a salute almost. [00:20:11] Speaker B: And we'll talk about this, because. Because when we get to it, when we get to the transformation in this episode, I went through and I detailed what we see, because each girl. Each girl is different. But did you have freeze frame poses at the end? [00:20:26] Speaker A: Yes, they do. [00:20:27] Speaker B: Sailor Moon's freeze frame pose is left hand on the hip, right hand making the peace sign with the thumb extended across her forehead. So I just. I noticed that in this. In this opening that she always strikes that pose. And we have. We have a barrel and jadeite opener once again. [00:20:48] Speaker A: Yep. [00:20:51] Speaker B: And so what I have. What I have here is that, is that Beryl's very unhappy with Jade. I think she tries to say, in my own defense, and she said, I don't want to hear your excuses. [00:21:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:09] Speaker B: You know, she's pretty much had enough of him, and he must defeat the scouts before. Before there's any more trouble, or else it's the sentence of eternal sleep. That's just. That's the threat he's working under in this episode. [00:21:25] Speaker A: Plunged into the deepest darkness, never to awake again. [00:21:30] Speaker B: Yes. [00:21:31] Speaker A: What do you think that means? [00:21:33] Speaker B: I don't know, but we. But she doesn't. She does at least acknowledged that he has done a decent job of gathering energy. Yes, but he. But he had failed her in the fact that he hasn't handled these three little girls, as they referred. Yeah. [00:21:48] Speaker A: And how could you not just deal with three little girls? What are you like, exactly, that. I don't even remember how old they are. Early twenties. [00:21:57] Speaker B: They're 14. [00:21:58] Speaker A: No, I know how old. I know how old the sagi and friends are. I'm talking about Jadeite. [00:22:05] Speaker B: Oh, I have no idea how old. [00:22:08] Speaker A: Jade, I think, like, early twenties. [00:22:11] Speaker B: Okay. I figured he was in his late twenties, but I mean it. [00:22:15] Speaker A: I can look it up. That's a thing I do on this. [00:22:21] Speaker B: Look things up. [00:22:23] Speaker A: I mean, our assistant looks it up. We didn't lose our assistant over the break. [00:22:28] Speaker B: Yeah, of course. Did we get a new one? [00:22:32] Speaker A: Yes. [00:22:33] Speaker B: Or intern. We got a new intern. [00:22:35] Speaker A: We got a new intern. Yes. [00:22:36] Speaker B: All right, good. Thank God. How old? You know how old tuxedo mask is? Don't you have inside information? [00:22:44] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah, I do. And depending on what version, it differs. [00:22:53] Speaker B: Okay, you mean if it's crystal or if it's monk. [00:22:58] Speaker A: What are they, manga or anime? [00:23:00] Speaker B: Okay, I see what you say. [00:23:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:02] Speaker B: Gotcha. Are you looking that up? So while you're looking that up. Yeah. It ends with. With the threat of eternal sleep. [00:23:12] Speaker A: Yes. [00:23:13] Speaker B: Jade, I basically saying, I won't fail you again. And, you know, we're. I don't know if we're pulling for him, but, I mean, I think Bear's being a little tough on him because he has gathered energy, you know? [00:23:23] Speaker A: Yeah. And, I mean, he is a master of disguise, so he's done so much. [00:23:31] Speaker B: Yes, indeed, indeed. So then it cuts to Asagi is stargazing. She's staring out her window, looking. Looking at the. Looking at the stars, and she's seeing constellations. She's like Virgo and Sagittarius and what have you, and then. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, she sees one in the shape of Matoki. [00:23:54] Speaker A: Yes. [00:23:55] Speaker B: And then the next one is in the shape of tuxedo mask. [00:23:58] Speaker A: Yes. [00:23:59] Speaker B: And she. She wonders to herself, you know, she thinks it's. She's kind of amazed that she has a crush on two different guys. She thinks that's. That's quite something. And she muses to herself, if only Matokia wear tsito masks. [00:24:16] Speaker A: Yes. And Luna says to her, your crushes are like bubbles in the ocean. [00:24:23] Speaker B: Yes. They don't last very long. [00:24:26] Speaker A: She's like, damn, girl. All right. [00:24:29] Speaker B: Luna's the official buzzkill of the show. [00:24:32] Speaker A: She. I mean, she keeps it real. She keeps it real. [00:24:36] Speaker B: Yeah. She's definitely, definitely critical of our girl. That's for sure. [00:24:40] Speaker A: I mean, she wants the best for her. [00:24:42] Speaker B: Yeah, true. But she also. She also doesn't have much of a choice. I mean, I get the feeling Luna didn't choose Taylor Moon. Somebody else assigned Luna to Sailor Moon. That's. That's. That's how it seems to me. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, did sailor. Sailor Moon get chosen because she took the band aid off of Luna? [00:25:04] Speaker A: Yeah, let's go with that. [00:25:05] Speaker B: Okay. [00:25:06] Speaker A: All right. For now. [00:25:08] Speaker B: Gotcha. There's more to be revealed later. I guess, as far as we know, that's what happened. [00:25:16] Speaker A: That exactly. [00:25:17] Speaker B: Okay. Was just a stray cat with a band aid over, over, over the. Whatever the marking is on her forehead. [00:25:25] Speaker A: Crescent moon ball spot. [00:25:28] Speaker B: Is that what it's about? Spot. Okay. [00:25:29] Speaker A: Yeah. That's how it's canonically referred to. [00:25:32] Speaker B: All right. It's. It's a marking. Yes. Cats don't get tattoos, so it's not a tattoo. [00:25:38] Speaker A: It's a bald spot. [00:25:39] Speaker B: It's a bald spot. Very good. And then the reason I even bring that up is I was looking over the. I was looking over the manga. I was looking over how much. How far we are in the manga, and I found. I found it online. I found a resource where the entire manga is available for viewing online. So I don't. Yeah, I don't have to stress about having lost the. Having lost the book. You got me. It will be found at some point. [00:26:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:07] Speaker B: It's safely in my brother in law's house, which is, believe me, he's lived in the same house for, like, 20 years. So there. I've been there, and he has quite a collection of items. So it's quite understandable that it could get misplaced there. But it is safe. [00:26:23] Speaker A: Sure. [00:26:24] Speaker B: But the good news is I can refer to the manga now at any time I want because I found this. I found this site that I can just look it up. [00:26:32] Speaker A: Very nice. [00:26:33] Speaker B: That's helpful. That's a good resource for the show, for sure. Yes. All right. [00:26:39] Speaker A: I reference the manga at any time because I have, like, several different copies and versions of it because I am that person. [00:26:49] Speaker B: Exactly. Go ahead. Go ahead and make a plug for yourself. That's good. [00:26:54] Speaker A: I have, like, three half finished, three different half finished japanese versions of the manga. [00:27:03] Speaker B: Wow. [00:27:04] Speaker A: So. And I bought them all with the intent of going, someday I'll be able to read this. And that's, like, half true. [00:27:16] Speaker B: Honestly, how much you can comprehend now, when you try and read it, I. [00:27:21] Speaker A: Mean, it helps that I know the story. Yeah, the story. I know the source material very, very well. So it makes reading it a little easier because I kind of like. But then I also take them. Take the time to actually, like, read it phonetically in my head, too, not just auto translate it. [00:27:44] Speaker B: Do you find yourself looking things up? [00:27:46] Speaker A: Sometimes. But Sailor Moon, since it was intended for a younger audience, typically, anytime there's kanji, it does have, like, the. To show you the pronunciation above it. [00:27:57] Speaker B: Okay. [00:27:58] Speaker A: So a lot of the times, you don't have to look stuff up if you're looking for pronunciation. And because it's intended for younger audiences, it's a little bit less complex in the sentence structure. So with my very, very, very basic understanding of Japanese, can get along because I know the story so well. [00:28:21] Speaker B: Gotcha. [00:28:22] Speaker A: There are moments where I'm like, what the fuck does that word mean? [00:28:26] Speaker B: It's probably not. Not a bad. A bad thing to be trying to read for someone who is beginning to learn Japan. [00:28:33] Speaker A: Sure. [00:28:34] Speaker B: I mean, as opposed to trying to read a technical manual for a thermonuclear device. [00:28:39] Speaker A: Truth? Yes, very true. [00:28:41] Speaker B: So it's arguably stargazing. She's seeing. She's seeing in the stars the images. [00:28:47] Speaker A: Of her crushes Tokyo Nissan, and then. [00:28:52] Speaker B: All of a sudden, who appears in the sky? [00:28:54] Speaker A: Jumbotron Jadeite. [00:28:56] Speaker B: That's right. And he. He addresses. He addresses the three girls specifically. He's like, listen up. I am Jada. [00:29:06] Speaker A: Sarah Moon. Sara Mercury. Sara Mars. [00:29:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I like that. He does it in order. [00:29:12] Speaker A: Yes. Every time. [00:29:14] Speaker B: We've got to keep him in order. Oh, yeah. And so as I was watching, I was right. Did everybody see this? And then, of course, we find out that they did. [00:29:24] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:29:25] Speaker B: The image of Jade was not just limited to them seeing it, you know? And so the citizens of Japan had to have been asking themselves, who was he addressing? [00:29:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, in a way, because they do know of Sailor Moon. She's become sort of a local hero in some places, like the school, where she does a lot of saving of the other students. And, like, it's a very sort of like, buffy the vampire slayer vibe, where, like, she slowly gains the renowned. [00:29:57] Speaker B: Okay, okay. [00:30:00] Speaker A: As you know, Sailor V is already. So it's not very like. [00:30:04] Speaker B: But Sailor V, strictly a comic book hero. [00:30:07] Speaker A: No, Sailor V is. Is real. [00:30:09] Speaker B: Oh, it's real. Okay. [00:30:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:12] Speaker B: So. So the fact that they have a Sailor B video game, it's based on the real superhero. [00:30:16] Speaker A: Yes. [00:30:17] Speaker B: Okay. Gets good. That I understand. I didn't know that. I thought. I thought she was simply a character. [00:30:23] Speaker A: I mean, she's so popular. They made a video game out of over about her. [00:30:29] Speaker B: I understand. In. In the moonverse, sailor. Sailor B is a real magical girl who's out saving the world. [00:30:36] Speaker A: Yes. [00:30:37] Speaker B: Okay. [00:30:39] Speaker A: And canonically, she works with the police. [00:30:42] Speaker B: Okay. [00:30:43] Speaker A: Solving mysteries and detective work. [00:30:46] Speaker B: There you go. You dropped out there for a second. That was weird. [00:30:50] Speaker A: Duh, duh, duh. [00:30:52] Speaker B: Okay, so, um, then, okay. Did anybody else see it? So did he. He summons them. Is that a real airport that he summons them to? [00:31:02] Speaker A: The. Was it the Haneda out airport? Yeah, yeah, that is a real airport. [00:31:07] Speaker B: That the one is built right on the ocean. Is that the one where they actually poured. They had to bring gravel out and dump it and make land for it. [00:31:15] Speaker A: Possibly the Tokyo airport. When I. Out, Narita is where I flew in. [00:31:23] Speaker B: So, because I know there's an airport in. In Japan where they had. They actually made the land for it. And I'm wondering if that's it, because it's surrounded by water, as is this airport. In the, in the anime, that airport is surrounded by water as well. [00:31:41] Speaker A: So I would say, because we already know that Naoko used a lot of Japan where she grew up. It's probably. Yeah, it's exactly that airport. [00:31:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, so. And they're supposed to be there at 01:00 a.m. which is a little late for the girls, I think that was. Yeah, you should know. They're not up that late. [00:32:07] Speaker A: Oh, no, no. Responsible lady is. [00:32:10] Speaker B: So then, so then he says, if they don't show up, he says, meet me at the airport tomorrow at 01:00 a.m. or else. And then he, like. And then we see him all of a sudden incinerate the Tokyo Skyline. [00:32:24] Speaker A: Yeah, he, like, vomits a fireball on them. [00:32:28] Speaker B: Yeah. And then, and then, I don't know what the exact same thing that Luna and sailor. Sailor Moon said, but it's like, you bastard. You know, like as if it really happened. And then JD says that was just an illusion. And he gets so funny. He shows them that he threatens to incinerate Tokyo, but that was just an illusion. Just, just so you know, it didn't really happen. That was funny. And then I thought, I thought to myself that. And I know this is terrible to say, but I wonder if there's extra sensitivity to the idea of, you know, the city being, being engulfed in flames given, I mean, its history of being bombed. [00:33:14] Speaker A: I think that might also be. That might be it. But also, how would you feel if you were a superhero protecting Seattle and somebody said they were gonna burn it all down? [00:33:29] Speaker B: True. Well, I'd show up. That's. [00:33:36] Speaker A: What they're doing. [00:33:37] Speaker B: Well, that brings us to the next scene. [00:33:40] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:33:41] Speaker B: Which is. Which also, I figured it was later in the evening that Sailor Moon was looking up and seeing the stars. I figured it's like 910 o'clock at a school night. Right? But all of a sudden, we cut to Sailor Moon, sailor Mercury and Sailor Mars. They've all met at some neutral location out in public, and they're discussing Jade. [00:34:02] Speaker A: Well, it's not a neutral location out in public. It's the shrine that Sailor Mars resides at. [00:34:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:34:10] Speaker A: Anytime you see that, like, big courtyard area and it's just them. Okay, that's, that. That's the temple. That's. That's hikawa shrine. [00:34:18] Speaker B: So they're at the Mars. The shrine that Mars. [00:34:21] Speaker A: Yeah. With, uh, Rey Rejan. [00:34:25] Speaker B: I don't know. I'd say Ray. Yeah. So. So they're meeting there discussing. Discussing the threat. And Mars, of course, is he wants to fight. That's. That's. That's who she is. [00:34:38] Speaker A: I believe her exact words were, we must always face evil's challenge. [00:34:42] Speaker B: That's right. And then. But. But then mercury, of course, is she wants to be smart about it, and she's like, we need to come up with a plan first, which is very. That's very mercury, you know? [00:34:54] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:34:55] Speaker B: You know, that's coming from. That's coming from. From ame. Is that how you say it? Ame? Amy. [00:35:00] Speaker A: Um. Amy. Yeah, Amy. [00:35:03] Speaker B: That's very Amy. I like. I like the. I still think of her now as, like, some of her characteristics are coming from the idea that they were gonna have her be a robot. [00:35:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:13] Speaker B: I like, I wish they would have done that. Honestly, that would have been kind of cool. But anyway, and then, of course, then, of course they could ask Sailor Moon what she thinks they should do since she's scared and doesn't want to go. [00:35:26] Speaker A: Exactly. Which, honestly, mood, like, that's. Nah, not you. [00:35:35] Speaker B: Sounds great, but, nah, she literally said, I'm scared and I don't want to go. [00:35:42] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:35:43] Speaker B: I like that. That's honesty for you. [00:35:46] Speaker A: I love the fact that they are always very honest with their feelings for one another. Like, in every situation, like, soggy. Never, ever sugarcoats how she feels, and she never. Hey, this is me. [00:36:05] Speaker B: No matter how much crap she gets from Luna or from her parents, from any of her peers, she's. She's unapologetic about. Yeah. About what she does and how she feels, she doesn't. She does not feel the need to feel embarrassed about it. You know what I mean? It's like, no, this is. This is how it is with me. I do like that. Isn't that technically, would you call that wearing your heart on your sleeve? Kind of. That's. That's kind of. [00:36:32] Speaker A: I think. I think I would just say authentic. [00:36:35] Speaker B: Authentic. Very good. [00:36:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:38] Speaker B: So then after. After they all kind of. They all kind of grown. When Sailor Moon says she doesn't want to. She doesn't want to go breakfast at Usagi's house. And we see. We see a news report that a mysterious image appeared in the sky. But it's probably a prank. [00:37:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:00] Speaker B: However, the police will be standing by at the airport. [00:37:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:04] Speaker B: So. So it is addressed. So it was seen by the citizens of Tokyo. Yes. And the news is, of course, has to cover it because that would be a pretty big news item, I would think, if an image of some giant guy threatening to blow up the city happened and the police would have to respond to that. All. That all checks out with me. [00:37:28] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:37:29] Speaker B: And then. And then from. From them. Then it goes to the school, doesn't it? From there? [00:37:38] Speaker A: Yeah. We go to school and. [00:37:40] Speaker B: And the kids are talking about it, and they. Yeah, they all said they want to go to the airport and check it out. You know, it's either gonna be nothing or it's gonna be kind of cool. [00:37:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:50] Speaker B: And Shayla Moon is like, no, no, don't go. It'll be dangerous. [00:37:53] Speaker A: Usagi's like, uh, uh, we should stay. We should stay. Study. We should. We don't need to go. You have much more things to spend your night on. [00:38:02] Speaker B: ThAt's right. That's what she says. Don't you think if you have extra time at night, you should spend it studying? And Haruna freaks out. Is thAt. Isn't that Her Name? [00:38:11] Speaker A: Yes. [00:38:12] Speaker B: Haruna. Good for me. I remember something. Yeah. [00:38:14] Speaker A: I'm so proud of you. [00:38:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. She can't believe this is coming out of Usagi's mountain. [00:38:20] Speaker A: She's like, what? And then Usagi says, choto mina mate, which means, hold on, everyone. Hold on. Yeah, yeah. And, I meaN, she's just worried about her friends. That makes me sad that everyone's just like, um, you must be crazy because you never say things like that. It was like, are you sure you're OkaY? So after school, she's. She's upset that everyone is thinking that there's something wrong with her because she wants them to stay safe. And so then she goes, and she's talking to Motoki at the arcade, as she is wont to do. And she is like. She's like, I. I'm so sad. He goes, oh, I understand. But I kind of agree with your teacher. It's so unlike you to be like that. Part of the reason that I like you is that you have a unique personality, and I like girls with unique personalities. I'm remembering she's like, really? And then she just gets, like, giddy, happy, and is skipping down the street, as she's wont to do. And as is also want to do, her shoe flies off her foot and hit you. Hits our good, good friend, mysterious stranger. [00:39:45] Speaker B: Right? And then he says. He says, this is the second time you hit me with a shoe. [00:39:51] Speaker A: Which more than the second time that she hit him with a shoe. [00:39:55] Speaker B: But it's been garbage, dude. [00:39:59] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah. And then he kind of gets up in her face about it, and he's like, anybody who would like you she's like, I don't care what you say because I, the person I like says I'm amazing. And he's like, well, haha. They must be a loser because you're a loser. And it takes one to no one. And then she's like, how dare you call Motoki a loser. Oh my God. In so many words. And then starts crying. And then everybody else around because they're on a crowded street starts looking over and they're like, oh my God. Who's that man making that young girl cry? Who's making that girl cry? Oh my God. I can't believe he's like that. He's like, oh, please. Oh my God. Here's your shoe back. Uh, I gotta go. And he like, tosses her shoe at her and like hits her. And then he just like, books it by. [00:40:57] Speaker B: Maybe as an older, basically a man, a young man, you should think twice about, you know, criticizing her for her boyfriend choices. [00:41:07] Speaker A: I mean, maybe he was angry because she hit him with the shoe. [00:41:10] Speaker B: That could be. It does keep happening. We have. I'll admit that. I mean, I would be kind of. [00:41:16] Speaker A: Frustrated if the same person kept hitting me with garbage and detritus. [00:41:21] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Did that bring us to the airport where they, um. [00:41:28] Speaker A: Yeah, I have. I have a couple more notes and then I have. Okay, so I have. At this point, it then cuts to Jade. I putting all of like the airport personnel asleep. [00:41:42] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I was gonna say something about that. [00:41:44] Speaker A: Yeah. And they just like, clunk over. [00:41:48] Speaker B: Why didn't he just do that to begin with? Instead of these elaborate plans to extract energy from people, why didn't he just put everyone to sleep and get their energy? [00:41:57] Speaker A: Because I. I think at the beginning of the episode, Barrel gave him more power. Okay, but I could be wrong. It might just be he's like, he was holding back, trying to. Trying to be subtle because, you know, he's. He's a master of disguise, right? So he's trying to be subtle and then now it's his last ditch effort. So he's gonna go all out. He's gonna go balls with wall. [00:42:19] Speaker B: I'm just saying, if I had the ability to cast a sleep spell that had that big of a range, I wouldn't bother with these elaborate schemes that he's. That he's cooked up in the previous episode. [00:42:30] Speaker A: That's fair. [00:42:32] Speaker B: But then again, we, as we've come to learn, he's not the brightest bulb on the tree. I mean. [00:42:37] Speaker A: I mean, he is, but he isn't. [00:42:39] Speaker B: He's in trouble with Queen Beryl. [00:42:41] Speaker A: Yeah. For real. [00:42:45] Speaker B: He puts the staff to sleep at the airport, including the police. [00:42:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, he does. And then it cuts to our girls getting on a train to go. To go encounter Jada. [00:43:04] Speaker B: Sorry. Doesn't want to get on the train at all. [00:43:06] Speaker A: No. [00:43:07] Speaker B: There's Mercury. Mercury says this is a trap. [00:43:09] Speaker A: Yeah. And Mars, like, she's so brash. She's so sure of herself. She's like, let's do this, whatever. We're going. And it's amazing. [00:43:22] Speaker B: She turns out she's right. Yes, because. Because in order to. I mean, they're obliged to meet up with him at one that. Yeah, otherwise. Otherwise, if he carries out the threat of burning down Tokyo, then. Yes, but their fault that. Yeah, they were no shows. [00:43:41] Speaker A: Yeah. My next note here is, and I quote, God, I fucking love the music of this show. I need to replay. Replay the Super Nintendo game. So, yes, it was only released in Japan, and in order to play it, you have to, like, either, like, buy the system or play it on an emulator. Not that I condone that, but you. [00:44:13] Speaker B: Have to buy a japanese version of the NES, right? [00:44:15] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's. It's hard to find, but I freaking love it. It's. [00:44:25] Speaker B: I know people who still play their. Their original NES system. [00:44:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, see, I don't have an. I don't have a snes. I have an emulator. The game that I've had since, like, although you. [00:44:40] Speaker B: Even though you don't. [00:44:41] Speaker A: Early two thousands, late nineties. Yeah. And I've just kept it over the years because I love that game. And, yeah, there's a. There's one that is a. An rpg, so it's like, it's very final fantasy, but it's Sailor Moon. [00:45:00] Speaker B: Okay. [00:45:02] Speaker A: And it's really good, and I love it so freaking much. And then there's a couple of fighting games that are, like, street Fighter esque, and then there's this game called Fu a fu a panic where it's kind of like, have you ever played Puyo Puyo Tetris? [00:45:23] Speaker B: I think, you know, I haven't. [00:45:25] Speaker A: I think, you know, I don't know if you've played any games over the past couple of years. All right. I just thought I'd ask. So. Okay, so it's kind of like Tetris, but it's like you're on the bottom of the screen and you're walking and you're, like, popping bubbles, and you. You're trying to match different balloons of the same color together. And the more that are together, the better the pop. And then you send. The more you pop at one time. You send unpoppable balloons over to the other side, basically. But it's sailing moon characters, and you can use their special abilities. That's all really cute. And then there's like one or two different side scroller. Like, I can't think of a analogous game like Streets of Rage if you know that game. Or like the teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game, or like arcade games where it's like a 2d side scroller. [00:46:27] Speaker B: I know what a side scroller is. I know what that. [00:46:30] Speaker A: So, yeah, it's like a 2d fighting side scroller. So it's like Mario, but if you could kick faces. [00:46:37] Speaker B: Okay. [00:46:37] Speaker A: But it's Sailor Moon and it's great and it's fun and I love them. [00:46:40] Speaker B: And called what? [00:46:43] Speaker A: Oh, the bubble popping one is called fu. A fu. A panic. [00:46:46] Speaker B: Okay. [00:46:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:50] Speaker B: How would somebody know that that's a sailor moon game? [00:46:53] Speaker A: Um, because. Because all of the art and, like, it's. [00:47:02] Speaker B: You certainly wouldn't know it from the title. [00:47:05] Speaker A: I mean, it does say more. It probably says be soldiers and she sailor Moon on there, but I just know it as the short game, which is fufu panic. [00:47:15] Speaker B: So let me say standpoint. If it's a sailor Moon game, you should include the name Sailor Moon in the name. [00:47:22] Speaker A: Well, and most, most do. And all of the boxes and the art and whatnot is all official, and it shows it and it's cool and I love it. The RPG is called Sailor Moon, another story. And it's really good. [00:47:37] Speaker B: That makes sense. That has sailor Moon in the title. That's all. [00:47:41] Speaker A: Yeah, and. But all the. The RPG has all of the music from the show in it as background music. So when you're, like, leveling up or going through places, you hear the music and I just hear it in the show and I get excited. [00:47:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it does have good music. We could talk about the music a little bit if you wanted to. [00:48:02] Speaker A: I mean, sure. [00:48:04] Speaker B: The music gets me excited. It's like. [00:48:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:07] Speaker B: Like, I just. To let you in on it. Previously, prior to doing a show, like when I was driving over to your place, because we recorded at your place, driving over, I would just have the theme song on repeat, and I just. I would just listen to the theme song, the opening theme song on repeat just to get me pumped up for recording. And it definitely. It definitely got me. It created enthusiasm. It got me pumped as Jane Gang. [00:48:34] Speaker A: Yeah. I love the music from the entire series. It's just so freaking solid. And to this day. Like, there's some, like, there's some background music from, like, the third season that every time I hear it, it takes me back to a very specific time in my life and it's just my favorite thing ever. [00:48:57] Speaker B: Sure. [00:48:58] Speaker A: I. Yeah. [00:49:00] Speaker B: Music is like that, though. I mean, yeah. I wouldn't compare. I wouldn't say that the music is. Sailor Moon is at the same level as the music in Final Fantasy, though. I mean, final fantasy kind of takes the cake for, for having great music. [00:49:15] Speaker A: I mean, yes. I mean, they've won many, many awards as far as nostalgia quality and, like, my own personal. It's. They're. They're neck. They're right at the same. They're just good. [00:49:36] Speaker B: All right, so. [00:49:37] Speaker A: Yes. [00:49:38] Speaker B: So, so the girls are there. Just in there. They're just dressed in there. I mean, yeah. [00:49:45] Speaker A: They haven't transformed. [00:49:47] Speaker B: Right. [00:49:48] Speaker A: Just regular school girls. [00:49:50] Speaker B: That's. That. Is that what Mars wears to school? She goes to a different school. [00:49:54] Speaker A: She is. At that point, she is wearing her robes, her priestess robes because she is a Chintel priestess. [00:50:02] Speaker B: So they're rugs. I was gonna say it's not a kimono, but she's wearing. [00:50:05] Speaker A: But no, I think it's. Oh, gosh. Oh, by the way, our intern got back to us. Jade I is 18. [00:50:15] Speaker B: Okay, good. [00:50:16] Speaker A: Yes. So neither of us were right. [00:50:20] Speaker B: I spent a little time looking up Daniel. Their uniforms. They're the school uniforms. And did I write that down in here? I didn't. It was just something I did on my own. And it turns out that those, the uniforms are wearing are based on british naval uniforms. You know that. [00:50:41] Speaker A: Yes. [00:50:42] Speaker B: That's where the inspiration for the, for the girls uniforms. The girls are wearing the uniforms of male british naval officers. That's. That's what the, although I don't think the british navy had. They had the little neckerchief kind of things, whatever you call that. But they didn't have bows. They didn't have giant. Giant bows connected. They had. They had, like, a necktie kind of thing. [00:51:13] Speaker A: Well, you know. [00:51:16] Speaker B: And then the reason, and we'll bring this up because I. Can we just jump to the transitions or to the transformations? Because that's. I have many notes on that. [00:51:26] Speaker A: This is, yeah. [00:51:28] Speaker B: I spent a huge amount of time on this episode going back and looking over every detail of transformations because I noticed for the first time and, you know, it shows how much I'm paying attention. Sailor Mars and Sailor Mercury, they have transformation sequences that we see. [00:51:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:48] Speaker B: And so. And they're the same each time. They transform it's the same sequence that we run, which, the world of animation is great because they don't have to, they don't have to paint any new, any new frames they cut. They just get to edit in old, old animations. And so it turns out that I was right, that sailor Moon's transformation is a lot more interesting. So when Mercury and Mars transform each one of them, it takes 12 seconds. I timed it, and Sailor Moon takes 37 seconds. So sailor Moon's transformation is three times longer than which, which means, which is just like animation lock in a video game. Like, it's like she's slower. That's gonna end up killing her. Her transformation is more intricate. It's taking longer that Mars and Mercury can transform faster. So for anyone who cares, if you're interested in how I came up with 12 seconds, I went from the moment she calls out mercury. Like, mercury magic makeup. [00:52:58] Speaker A: Mercury power makeup. [00:53:00] Speaker B: Mercury power makeup. So I started, I started timing it from the moment she says makeup. And so I started timing on makeup, and I ended when she freeze frames. And what happens in the 12 seconds for Mercury is she waves her. You call it a wand. It's a wand. Right? [00:53:18] Speaker A: Transformation rod. Transformation wand. Transformation pen. [00:53:24] Speaker B: Alright. She waves her wand in a swooping circle, spins around two and a half times with ends up with her back to us. She spreads her arms down and out, sends shockwaves out away from her body, spins around to face us, and then strikes a freeze frame pose with upper arms hugging her body and her forearms jutting out. So if you can imagine, her elbows are kind of hugging her hips and her hands are away from her body and then at 90 degrees, perpendicular to her body, and then her thighs are closed and she's knock kneed. So that's how she ends her pose with. She knock kneed with her hands, with her elbows to her hips and her hands sticking out. And that's how she always ends. That's how she ends her pose. Does Mars power makeup. And then Mars instantly becomes basically a naked white silhouette, as does mercury. She becomes a white silhouette. So basically her regular clothes disappear and she becomes a white silhouette. Then her wand shoots out five beams of fire. Okay. And they double into rings. Into rings that double. As they circle around her body. Her body spins two and a half times clockwise, leaving her back to us. We then zoom in on her legs as each foot is circled by three rings of fire that then explode, turning into red high heels. We tilt up as she spins still clockwise, and then two and a half times, revealing her red and white sailor uniform, then freeze frames, legs slightly apart, with one hand on her hip and the other outstretched, point down towards the ground. So we get a little bit more with Mars because we actually see her outfit kind of with mercury, the outfit is just something there. We don't see her. She gets boots, by the way. Yeah, but we don't, we don't see that happen. That just happens instantaneously. She changes all at once with Mars. We see. We see her, her red high heels. We see them going from, from the naked, naked foot to little rings of fire around her feet to shoes. And then her body is circled by rings of fire, and that turns into the sailor uniform. And. And so the mercury and sailor moon have somewhat similar cost. I don't want to call them uniforms. Costumes. What would you call it? [00:56:18] Speaker A: Uniforms. [00:56:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:23] Speaker A: Would be the japanese word for it. [00:56:25] Speaker B: Mercury is just white and blue. That's. That's all she is. [00:56:29] Speaker A: And then, well, she's two different shades of blue. They're each two. They're each two colors. Everyone has the base that's white. [00:56:36] Speaker B: Right. [00:56:37] Speaker A: And then everyone, and then they have two separate colors. [00:56:39] Speaker B: Right. And with Mars, she's got the base that's white, and then she has red trim, and then her bow is purple. [00:56:46] Speaker A: Mm hmm. [00:56:46] Speaker B: Yep. And then I never written down. I just remember it, and then with this. So then here's. Here's. Here's the breakdown for Sailor Moon. So Sailor Moon has more words because Sailor Moon says, moon prism power makeup. Yeah, but the other girls don't say prism. It's not Mars prism power makeup. It's just Mars power makeup. No prism. [00:57:10] Speaker A: Yeah, well, they don't have a prism because she's, she's sailor Moon. [00:57:15] Speaker B: Well, guess what. Guess what? Sailor Moon doesn't have a wand. Sailor Moon just sticks your hand out. So no wand, right hand, because Sailor. [00:57:26] Speaker A: Moon transforms with the power of her brooch. [00:57:30] Speaker B: Right. So she doesn't have one hand as spinning lines at the tip of her, at the tip of her thumb, chasing along the tip of her pointer finger, middle finger, and ring finger. So these, these lines are radiating out from her fingers, and they run down her fingers from her thumb to her pinky in a descending fashion, creating a swirl of color rayes, light blue, pink, and green. So that's. That's after she calls out Moon prison power makeup, puts her hand out. She gets this poorly where it is around her hand, and then the darker blue background of whatever dimension they transform in, because when they transform, all of a sudden, wherever they are goes away, and they're just in a kind of a void with a dark blue background. Cuts the sailor moon's eyes open. Then they blink, and then we pull out, and she spins three times. She faces us. When she finishes her rotation, the round golden brooch at the center of her bow bursts into swaths of clothing that wrap her tortilla ribbons and become. Comes her, the white sailor. There it is. Sailor fuku uniform. That's what it is. That's what it's called. F u k o. It's a fuku uniform. And it comes from. From. It comes from the school where that was first used as a uniform. And that's. How do you say it? [00:59:14] Speaker A: Fuku. [00:59:15] Speaker B: Fuku. So I had. [00:59:17] Speaker A: I mean, it's in her. It's in her opening. Sailorman's opening thing, said Moon. She's saying, I am the sailor suited pretty shoulder. [00:59:32] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Okay. [00:59:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:35] Speaker B: So I never noticed that because I don't think happening. So I don't. So it's. So her superhero uniform is just like her school uniform, with it. With the following. With the following differences. The blue bow at her lower back turns a pinkish red. I don't know what color you want to call that. I just call it pinkish red. It's somewhere between red. You call it red. Okay. [01:00:00] Speaker A: Yeah. That's the official color. [01:00:02] Speaker B: Okay. And so then when it's a school uniform, it has sleeves, but when she's sailor moon, it's sleeveless. And so then she does a full spin and closes her arms in front of her, crosses her arms up, over, and up over her head and in front of her forehead as more cloth wraps around her hands and forearms to become white gloves with red trim. We have to do a quick tilt down as more ribbons of cloth wrap from her knees down to her feet to become high heeled boots with white with. They become red boots with white trim. She does another full spin around and reveals a blue pleated mini skirt instead of the longer school uniform skirt, so the skirt shortens when she becomes a superhero. Then she arches herself back past a normal upright posture, tips her head back, and just as a cross of white lines and a few concentric circles emerge from the center of her forehead, marking a spot where a golden headband appears along with two red spears, one in each of her pigtail buns, she then crosses her arms as she raises her hands over her head, uncrossing them, bringing her left hand down to the rest on her hip, and brings her right hand in front of her forehead, making a sideways piece gesture with those fingers as she holds that frozen freeze frame with her legs slightly open and her long pigtails spread out away from her body. That is the official transformation of the three girls. I get it. She's the hero of the show. We're gonna have more detail on her transformation. When you think about it, I never really noticed this before until I was doing this. Breaking it down. There's not a huge difference between what she wears to school and what she wears when she becomes a superhero. [01:02:10] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:02:11] Speaker B: I mean, she gets. She gets some gloves and some boots. Normally she. Normally, when she's at school, she has. She's wearing, like, some kind of loafers or something. It looks like. [01:02:20] Speaker A: Yeah, just little, like Mary Jane's. [01:02:22] Speaker B: Like little, yeah, and then, yeah, so. But she gets. Those boots are. I don't call them high heeled boots, but they're boots with a bit of a heel. [01:02:30] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, they got a little. [01:02:32] Speaker B: They're very wedgie heel fighting monsters. I would say they're good monster fighting boots. [01:02:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Hers are Sailor Mars's heels. No, no, sailor Mercury has less. Slightly less of a heel, if I'm not mistaken. [01:02:49] Speaker B: That could. That could be. And then. So they've transformed. And I don't know if this is the moment when Jade says that he knows their identity now, but I know. [01:02:59] Speaker A: That at some point, it's shortly after, because they transform. After the. The police start attacking them. [01:03:15] Speaker B: The police come at them and then stay. The visor comes, drops down or. No, she pushes a button on the side of her head, and then a visor comes out, and through the visor, she sees that the police aren't really police. [01:03:27] Speaker A: They're made out of clay. Yes. Yeah. [01:03:31] Speaker B: And in the manga, nephrite, earlier, before this episode, nephrite is talking to barrel, talking about how Jade is useless and jade. I. Jadeite uses monsters made of dirt. He said. [01:03:44] Speaker A: Yes. [01:03:45] Speaker B: He says Jade fails because he uses monsters made of dirt. That's. That's from the manga. That's not that in the anime. I just want to. Just want to point out that I've been reading the manga too, so I was like, clay. Clay golems would be monsters made of dirt and that. And this is why Jadeite fails. And so when they realize that the golems are made of dirt. [01:04:09] Speaker A: They beat him up. [01:04:12] Speaker B: Martin Omar Mars takes care of him with a single shot of fire soul. [01:04:18] Speaker A: Fire soul. Yeah. [01:04:21] Speaker B: Takes out all the clay golems. She's got a nice attack. That's no bubble. [01:04:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:27] Speaker B: That's all I'm saying. [01:04:29] Speaker A: I mean, you got it. You got to respect Sailor Mercury. She's got that. She's the defensive, so, you know, I get it. She's crowd control, baby. [01:04:40] Speaker B: Kind of like a bard tactician. [01:04:43] Speaker A: Exactly like a bard. [01:04:47] Speaker B: So I'll let you. I'll let you talk from this point. I'll just throw in. So at this point, Jade used. Jade. I use his telekinesis to control an airplane, and he doesn't airplane. He doesn't have the airplane take off and dive bomb them and crash into them. He has a taxi. That's the. [01:05:05] Speaker A: Yeah, come on. [01:05:06] Speaker B: If you. [01:05:07] Speaker A: I feel like they could just literally just dodge their way out of the way of the tires. Like, you're not moving particularly fast. The girls pretty much outrun them the whole time. [01:05:17] Speaker B: Right? [01:05:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Y'all just. Just do a little dive. Yeah, you're fine. Good job. [01:05:28] Speaker B: I didn't want to say it, but I felt like a taxiing airplane wasn't really a big threat. Rats. Yeah, I mean, Mars is like, they're running away from the airplane as it's taxiing. It's threatening to run them over, but not really. Not really making much ground doing so, but they're plenty afraid of it. And then Mars says, I'll just use fire soul on it. And then. So Luna pipes up and says, no, don't use fire soul. You know how much an airplane like that costs? And I thought to myself, since when do superheroes care about property damage? [01:06:04] Speaker A: Since Luna appears. [01:06:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Luna. Luna evidently, evidently has to ask you report to somebody who cares about that kind of thing. [01:06:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:15] Speaker B: Now, I'll say that there's been so much superhero movies and, you know, there's a general focus on superheroes in our culture. Culture in the last decade. [01:06:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:28] Speaker B: They have used property damage as a reason why the public turns against superheroes. You know, truth, that is. That has been a storytelling element. [01:06:39] Speaker A: You know, Luna's just looking out for their future. [01:06:42] Speaker B: But I would say that. I would say that this. This anime, when did it come out in Japan? It came out in America in 92. Right. [01:06:50] Speaker A: It came out in America in 94 or 95. It came out in Japan in 92. [01:06:57] Speaker B: So it came out in Japan in 92. [01:06:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:00] Speaker B: That's pretty early to be concerned about property damage. That's all I'm saying. You know, good job. That's some smart thinking. But on the part of the creator. [01:07:13] Speaker A: Way to go. Now. Cool. [01:07:15] Speaker B: So then. So then, since they're not going to use fire your soul on the plane, they're not going to destroy the plane. Mercury says then there's only thing one left to do. Keep running. So they start running again. So they continue to run away from the plane. And the plane is starting to make some ground. It's becoming more menacing. Then all of a sudden, the plane stops for no reason until we see a rose complying to frame. [01:07:40] Speaker A: And who could it be? [01:07:42] Speaker B: It spears itself into the ground. Ground. And who else could it be other than tuxedo mask bae? Tuxedomas stops the plane from moving by throwing a rose. [01:07:54] Speaker A: Yeah. He distracts Jadeite, who is controlling it with his telekinesis. And when he distracts Jadei, Jada can no longer control the plane, and therefore it stops in its tracks. [01:08:07] Speaker B: And the girls all exclaim, tuxedo mask. So then Jade. I respond by casting a lightning spell. There's just lightning in the background all of a sudden. [01:08:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:08:22] Speaker B: Jade, I. Jadeite and tuxedo masks, they fly up into the air. [01:08:29] Speaker A: It's a twirly camera fight. [01:08:30] Speaker B: They face each other, but they spin about three times. They. Yeah, they circle, but they're facing each other. Then Jadeite swoops in and takes tuxedo mask out with a single attack, knocking him, both of them, into the ocean. So tuxedo mask, he couldn't even dodge one attack. He gets. He gets taken out with a single blow. And then they both go into the ocean. And then the girls gasp. And then all of a sudden, the rose pops up, surfaces on the surface of the water. And then. And then who comes out of the water? Who arises out of the water? Jade. [01:09:11] Speaker A: Jadeite. Yeah. Oh, no. [01:09:16] Speaker B: And then she says, you need a man to do everything for you. Women are such shallow, useless creatures. And then Mars says, only old fashioned idiots like you still believe even nonsense like that. And then mercury says, right. Denigrating women is a relic of the feudal age. And sailor Moon says, no more discrimination. Sailor Moon doesn't use the word denigrating. I feel like denigrating was a little bit above the target audience, don't you? [01:09:47] Speaker A: Listen, sailor. Sailor mercury uses a lot of big words because she's smarty smart. [01:09:54] Speaker B: True. I'll let it go. Because it was Taylor Mercury. [01:09:58] Speaker A: Yeah, this is. This is similar to when you said that no one says perks up my day. Which I said, like, a week and a half ago. [01:10:11] Speaker B: When did I say that? [01:10:14] Speaker A: He was in a previous episode. Because. Because Motoki said, this perks up my whole day. And you were like, who says that? And I was like, me. I do. Often. [01:10:25] Speaker B: I think it's a little different than denigrating I mean, I had to look up. What? Denigrating. I had an idea. [01:10:33] Speaker A: I look it up, but I kind of knew out of context. I was like, all right, negative. [01:10:39] Speaker B: It's. [01:10:40] Speaker A: Yeah, it's probably means. [01:10:42] Speaker B: It basically means to put down then. [01:10:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:47] Speaker B: And then all three of the girls say in unison, all right, let's show that jerk what girls are made of. And. [01:10:54] Speaker A: Hell yeah. [01:10:56] Speaker B: Girl power. [01:10:57] Speaker A: Hell yeah. And then they come up with a plan. And their plan is, hey, Sailor moon, be bait. [01:11:07] Speaker B: Right? That's the plan. Sailor moon. Yeah, exactly. [01:11:11] Speaker A: And that's as far as they tell her. And then Sailor Mercury does her, shovels. [01:11:16] Speaker B: Her bubble spray, turns into a pink mist cloud. [01:11:20] Speaker A: Yeah. And they use Sailor moon as bait. [01:11:24] Speaker B: Right. [01:11:26] Speaker A: And then the reason is so that they could confuse Jadeite and sailor Mars. [01:11:37] Speaker B: Mars? Her spells, her little. [01:11:39] Speaker A: Yeah, her shinto training. Her shinto priestess training comes in, and she casts a spell using her training and sticks a talisman on the back of Jadeite's uniform. And all of the planes decide that they're now going to slowly, menacingly chase. [01:12:01] Speaker B: Jadeite, attaching towards Jada. Yeah, and this is Jada. Why are they following me now? Because. Because you were in a pink cloud, and that gave sailor Mars time to cast her spells, and now the planes are after you. [01:12:17] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:12:18] Speaker B: And so then at that point, sailor Moon busts out. Moon, tierra Akshon, Mta. Mta. And she misses. She misses, but she's effective in so much as jdyke ducks. The little frisbee that he throws at him, he ducks. And while he ducks, he is run over by an airplane. [01:12:47] Speaker A: He is crushed by a taxiing airplane. [01:12:50] Speaker B: Yep. And then he doesn't die. He's teleported. He's transported to. [01:12:59] Speaker A: He doesn't get transported. He. He shows up there. He transports himself there. First thing that. Yeah, first thing that barrel says is, how dare you come to me after failure. [01:13:10] Speaker B: Okay, wow. He's got some. He's got some big brass balls then. So he just. [01:13:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess. [01:13:16] Speaker B: Yet that was probably his only choice. It was that or die. [01:13:20] Speaker A: Yeah. And, you know, he comes and he's, like, trying to tell her, hey, hey, hey, don't. I know I didn't succeed in taking them out, but now I know who they are. We can target them at their homes, we. We can target their families. We can do all of this stuff and barrels like. I don't want to hear it, fool. [01:13:36] Speaker B: Yeah, this is a mistake. [01:13:38] Speaker A: You got fucked up, a ron. [01:13:40] Speaker B: I think that rage got the best of Beryl because he's right. [01:13:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:13:45] Speaker B: That information could have been useful. [01:13:47] Speaker A: Yeah. But she doesn't want to hear it. He's failed too many times. [01:13:51] Speaker B: And she just cast the ice cube around him. The sentence of eternal sleep. [01:13:56] Speaker A: Yep. He takes a long nap wherever he goes in his own little demi plane. [01:14:02] Speaker B: That's right. Gets a field promotion. [01:14:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Enter Mister Belui hair. [01:14:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:08] Speaker A: Yeah. And then we cut back to the airport and everyone is very, very sad. [01:14:14] Speaker B: Yep. They're morning. [01:14:16] Speaker A: Tuxedo mask is gone. [01:14:19] Speaker B: But then he appears from behind them. [01:14:21] Speaker A: And he says, it'll take more than that that to get rid of me. I'm amazing. [01:14:28] Speaker B: And then one of the girls, either Mars or Mercury, asks, who are you? And he says, I can't reveal my true identity yet. [01:14:36] Speaker A: He's like, not yet. Can't do it. [01:14:39] Speaker B: And then, and then instead of saying, believe in yourself, sailor Moon, he gives this advice. He tells them to cherish the bond they have between them. And then he flies away. [01:14:49] Speaker A: Yep. [01:14:51] Speaker B: Did you know he's good at giving advice? [01:14:54] Speaker A: He's good at giving advice. But did you know that he also has the power of hope? Like, part of the thing that he does is when the senshi have lost their fight and they just can't go on because if you notice, he always shows up at that critical time of need right when they're starting to lose and they don't think they're gonna make it. And. And he shows up and he basically, I mean, if you played d and D, fifth edition, he gives bardic addition or bardic inspiration and like, gives, gives Sailor Moon a renewed hope to continue fighting. So he's actually, and canonically in the manga, he does have healing powers. [01:15:39] Speaker B: So determined. He's not good at. When he comes to actual one on one combat. [01:15:45] Speaker A: He isn't. He isn't like, in some instances he. [01:15:49] Speaker B: Is, but you gotta take that with a single blow. [01:15:52] Speaker A: But at the same time, you have to realize that Sailor Moon was created to empower little girls and to, you know, rather than have the big beefy man show up and save the damsel in distress, he is the one who's the damsel in distress. [01:16:12] Speaker B: That's true. I mean, I mean, but he did actually. He stopped the plane from rolling. So that gave him time. That gave them time to come up with a plan. [01:16:22] Speaker A: Yeah, he. He does. He does have his usefulness. He's not meant to be powerful and all of that stuff. He's meant to be a side character. And the main character is Sailor Moon and her friends. And like, he's involved, but he's not supposed to wow you in that way. [01:16:44] Speaker B: Well, I mean, if it was really gonna be just about girl power, they wouldn't have him. They would just. They would win the fights on their own. So it does. It does kind of. It does kind of nerf the message a little bit that he comes in and saved the day. Like that. [01:16:59] Speaker A: I mean, but he doesn't save. Save the day. He's just like. He's like a cheerleader. He's like, they're so whenever Sailor Moon is down and out, and she's like, I don't know. I just don't. I don't know if I have it in me. I can't go on. He's there, and he's just like, you can do this. I believe in you. He's like, the best motivational speaker ever. He's there to make Sailor Moon and friends feel so good about themselves that they have the power to continue on. [01:17:30] Speaker B: One year with cheerleader, because then it's kind of reversing gender roles where Sailor Moon is the star football player and he's the cheerleader. [01:17:39] Speaker A: I mean, that's exactly what it is. That's what Al Quill was trying to do. She's like, he's not supposed to be the main character. He's not supposed to come in and save the day. He's supposed to be there as support. [01:17:51] Speaker B: Okay? [01:17:52] Speaker A: That's his role. [01:17:53] Speaker B: All right. You win me over once again, tuxedo mask. He's okay with me right now. [01:18:00] Speaker A: I love him. He's the ultimate bae. But overall, Bay lives forever and ever. That's my note. [01:18:10] Speaker B: This is a pretty. This is a pretty important episode, I think. [01:18:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:18:15] Speaker B: Not just because I got to spend a huge portion of the show talking about their transformation, which shows I'm paying attention. [01:18:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:18:25] Speaker B: But it's. It isn't. This. This episode isn't from the manga, but it is definitely. This is the end of Jade. So this is. [01:18:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [01:18:35] Speaker B: And now we get in the manga how they must. This. I don't see that. This showdown at the airport in the manga. So I don't know how JDai thinks. [01:18:48] Speaker A: Well, because in the manga, they. It's much shorter. Like, I think Jade has the jewelry shop episode and then maybe, like, two more stories before he's taken out. [01:19:08] Speaker B: And the fights Mercury and Mars when. Mercury. Mars. [01:19:11] Speaker A: Yeah. And then at the end of the Mars story, he gets put into the eternal sleep. [01:19:18] Speaker B: Okay. [01:19:19] Speaker A: So. And then they're just like, hey, nephrite, it's your turn. The manga is much more succinct. [01:19:27] Speaker B: Jade is the main bad guy, just for a brief period of time, and then. [01:19:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I mean, in the manga, the first. The first three acts, which are like chapters, introduce Sailor Moon, Sailor Mars, and Sailor Mercury. Not in that order. Flip flop. The last two. You know what I mean? Meanwhile, it took us, what, ten episodes to get all three? [01:20:01] Speaker B: I'm not sure. I don't remember exactly what episode Mars shows up in. [01:20:04] Speaker A: Mars shows up, and I have it listed right. So here. Episode ten. Yeah. It takes ten episodes for Sailor Mars to appear when she appears in chapter three at the manga. [01:20:18] Speaker B: Yeah. So, yeah, that pace won't remain. Won't remain constant like that. I mean, I think. I think there's gonna be more filler episodes of the anime as we go through. [01:20:30] Speaker A: I'm guessing the manga is, what, 1213 volumes, and the anime is 200 episodes. [01:20:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. [01:20:46] Speaker B: So my feeling on that is probably pretty accurate that we're getting. There's gonna be a lot. [01:20:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I would say that's probably pretty accurate. [01:20:52] Speaker B: It created a lot more content for the anime. [01:20:55] Speaker A: Yes. Including the entire first half of second season, which doesn't exist in the manga. [01:21:02] Speaker B: Very good. [01:21:04] Speaker A: It's why. Part of the reason why it's my least favorite, because it isn't. Is not canonical. [01:21:14] Speaker B: They call the monster the weak thing. Yoma. They call me almost Yoma. [01:21:17] Speaker A: Yeah. In. In this season, it's called the yoma. [01:21:20] Speaker B: Uh huh. [01:21:21] Speaker A: Um, it changes each season, what they're called. [01:21:24] Speaker B: There was another. There was another anime I watched called Claymore, where claymores are. Claymores are entities that bite the Oma, but they're part. Yeah, but themselves, they. They have some yoma in them. Coming. Yuma. Yeah. Have you seen that one? [01:21:40] Speaker A: Um, I've heard of it. I've not seen it, but I've heard of it. [01:21:43] Speaker B: Yeah, but I saw it, and they referred to the monsters as Gilma. I was like, oh, that's what. That's what Maddie said. They called the monsters in Sailor Moon. They called it Yoma. There you go. All right, well, that's. I guess that's pretty much it for this episode. [01:21:59] Speaker A: Yeah. I feel like this was probably a little shorter. We're just getting back into the groove of things, learning this whole thing. We're recording in a different format, obviously. We're on. We're using Riverside FM to record over great distances. And by great distances, I mean roughly about two and a half hours. [01:22:23] Speaker B: For those of you who don't know, it's an app that we use. It allows us to record remotely. [01:22:32] Speaker A: Yes. Which I am very thankful out of all of the horrible things that happened during the last couple of years, I am very thankful for the advancements in remote like recording capabilities and video sharing and all of that stuff, because, yeah. [01:22:58] Speaker B: It makes what we're doing right now possible. [01:23:01] Speaker A: Yep. That's so exciting. Oh, so I guess we could plug the website, which. We have a new website now because our podcast host changed. Podient was bought out by castos, and so our. I don't know what our link is. I'm so unprepared. I'm so sorry, guys. But hey, we'll be on all social medias as Mooney cast still. [01:23:41] Speaker B: And the Facebook site is still the same if you want to visit it. Yeah, we'll be updating those now that we have new. That we have new content. [01:23:50] Speaker A: Exactly. I've already. I've already. I already know what our 1st. 1st post is gonna be. [01:23:56] Speaker B: Excellent. [01:23:57] Speaker A: All right. Do you want to hear it? [01:23:59] Speaker B: Yes. [01:24:01] Speaker A: Getting the pod back together. I was pretty proud of that one.

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