Episode 18

September 24, 2024

01:12:48

EP 17 - FANGIRL CRUSH FOCUSES ON ART WITH A ABNG

Hosted by

Maddie Mike
EP 17 - FANGIRL CRUSH FOCUSES ON ART WITH A ABNG
Across the Mooniverse
EP 17 - FANGIRL CRUSH FOCUSES ON ART WITH A ABNG

Sep 24 2024 | 01:12:48

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in this episode we discuss Season 1, Episode 17 | Usagi Becomes a Model:The Flash of the Monster Camera.

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In this episode, hosts Madz and Hollywood Mike reaffirm their commitment to the podcast amidst life's chaos, share cultural insights about Japanese school lunches and bento boxes, and delve into the themes of photography and artistry as they analyze many fine points of the ongoing exploits of their favorite Magical Girl. They explore the concepts of fangirls and fanboys, and how these terms have evolved over time, while also proposing that Nephrite might posses a way to travel through time. The conversation is rich with personal anecdotes, cultural references, and a deep appreciation for the art of storytelling in anime. It all cumulates with a boss battle that has Sailor Moon borrowing Perseus's strategy for defeating Medusa in order to free Sailor Mercury, Sailor Mars and a gaggle of aspiring supermodels from an alternate dimension detention center whose warden happens to be this weeks yõma.

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[00:00:01] Speaker A: We are the super nerdy sailor guardians who fight for love and justice. And this is across the mooniverse. Hello, everyone, and welcome. Are you dancing across the Moonaverse? I'm always. [00:00:39] Speaker B: Hi, everybody. I'm Mike. [00:00:41] Speaker A: And I'm Maddie. And welcome to across the moon event. [00:00:45] Speaker B: Welcome, everybody. Happy Moon day. [00:00:47] Speaker A: Happy Moon Day has been quite the saga the last couple of weeks. We've both been very busy with just life. Yes. [00:01:00] Speaker B: We're able to stick to our commitment to do the show. For me, this is a priority. You know, I mean, life is life. Life is always going to be hectic and chaotic. But this, for me, this. Doing this show is very much part of my social skills now that, as adults was trying to, you know, make friends as a 54 year old man, it's not that easy to do. You know, I can't just find a D and D game. [00:01:29] Speaker A: Yeah. This, like, sticking to the schedule. Even if we don't do the same time every week or whatnot, it has a very, very similar feel to all of my D and D games where it's like, you know, we may not make it this time, but we're going to. Gonna do it. We're definitely gonna make it next time, or we're gonna reschedule or whatnot, but it's definitely gonna. Something that I've been adding in the show. Notes on the recent episodes. The cosmos can make us late, but it can't make us stop. Yeah. Yeah. [00:02:10] Speaker B: You know I work for Vin Diesel, right? [00:02:13] Speaker A: What? [00:02:14] Speaker B: Yeah. And did you know that he has. He has a D and D character? Is the name tattoo? He has a tattoo of his D and D character's name. He said that same character since he was, like, 14. [00:02:26] Speaker A: I believe it. I believe it. [00:02:28] Speaker B: Isn't that cool? [00:02:29] Speaker A: That is really cool. [00:02:30] Speaker B: I worked on triple x. I worked on the first triple x. It was the last movie I worked on. [00:02:35] Speaker A: Oh, nice. Cool. Very cool. [00:02:39] Speaker B: He was a pretty cool guy. I just did the whole Riddick series just last week. [00:02:44] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I like that. Honestly, I don't. I know most people don't care for it as much, but I honestly like the second one the best. [00:02:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I like the first one. [00:02:58] Speaker A: Yeah. The third one, I felt was very much just the first one. Yeah. [00:03:05] Speaker B: Well, let's talk about our show. This is season one, episode 17. We talked as a model, the blast of the monster camera, and we do find out what the monster camera is. [00:03:17] Speaker A: Indeed we do. Kind of terrifying, honestly. [00:03:20] Speaker B: So I wanted to say I have some old business from. From the previous episode. The reason I was talking about Prince to begin with. So this is our, these are how these digressions happen, where I end up waxing nostalgic. So I was, I'm jealous of your trip to Japan and your knowledge of japanese culture, especially as I get into anime more. And I mean, this process is a completely different culture. They have different, they have different norms and then, like, going to the witches and some of my favorite animes and seeing, like, all the tropes, you know what I mean? That's, that's very interesting to me. So, you know, I'm becoming. I know. You mean anglophile. What would be somebody who's in love with japanese culture? Japan file. [00:04:10] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was trying to, I was trying to think. I was like, did they use the japanese word for Japan? But I don't know. So I would say, yeah, Japan file, Bruce House. [00:04:22] Speaker B: And I bought it with my girlfriend, which is, you know, a little unusual. Normally people are married. There we go. So maybe. Maybe. So that was the reason I was talking about Prince, was that he, he used to spend Warner Brothers money really well. And so that's why I was telling the story about him and Warner Brothers. Yeah. [00:04:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:45] Speaker B: So thanks. Thanks, Prince, for helping me get a new house. Yeah. All right, back to the episode digress. And as much of this episode, but who knows? It opens with lasagna gleefully exclaiming, lunch. [00:05:04] Speaker A: Yes. [00:05:05] Speaker B: And I did. I got really specific on, I noticed. So she's sitting out to eat her lunch and it looked like a bento box. And then she has personalized chopsticks. Now, I learned until I started researching and then it looked like a juice box, but I was like, did japanese school children drink milk? And so I went on this whole thing. There is a campaign for japanese school children drink milk. And I learned that recently, like 2019, they switched over from being milk and little boxes that had straws to they weren't sure if cool children could handle the milk in american schools that they've been drinking their whole lives, which they call it a gable or a roof style box. In Japan, they can spill those. So that's why they always, they always have, but they have really straws for sustainability. So japanese flips have been kind of curtains like we did. Like we did when we were growing up. Tadae. So I was wondering, in your opinion, so did you go to school lunch that she's eating or did her mom make that? [00:06:22] Speaker A: Mom makes it because it's established in the first couple of episodes that her mom makes her lunch and she's very frequently forgetting it when she leaves for school in the morning. [00:06:34] Speaker B: So it is a ventral box that her mom makes. That's a little unusual, isn't it? That's a higher level of care. [00:06:41] Speaker A: It's actually pretty common for. Yeah, for, for japanese kids or anything like that, to have the personally made bento boxes. Bento boxes are like a very. And they're like cutesy, like they'll have like, you know, hot dogs that are little octopi and things like that. Like, they like to do that with their food and dress it up and make it look right. [00:07:08] Speaker B: So what I learned from other animes that I've enjoyed is that, like. So in a couple of them, some of those that I enjoy, the Trump seem to be that it's a single young male, you know, high school male who suddenly has beautiful women who live with him. And that sounded unusual to the parents. In one case, it's because in Jerusalem with love, which is one of my favorite animes, it's Princess Lala from the duckled, her family. She's an alien. She's an alien princess. And she's come. She's come to earth to escape her tyrannical father's overbearing nature. And so she moves in with this kid, you know, they're said to get married. So he's marrying an alien princess. And assassin comes, summons another shooter for Princess Devilu, for Mala is her name. Hires an assassin to kill off his poor school kid. And the assassin's name is darkness. She's a engineered human who's an assassin. And her hair is actually a weapon. It's pretty cool anyway, in that I. [00:08:21] Speaker A: Love the hair weapon trope in anime. It cracks me up every time. [00:08:26] Speaker B: Yeah, it's great, Usaki, that we could have hair weapon for sure. [00:08:31] Speaker A: Oh, for sure. [00:08:32] Speaker B: They look that heroku. Anyway, so in that anime, I don't know, because later on, Lala and sister Momo and another sister can come and live with them too. And Momo CG was better every morning. You know, they're all competing for his affection. And one of the princess girls makes bento for him as a show. That's why talking had a bento box from that. [00:08:58] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, Bento, when you're doing it like all complicated and whatnot, or just making it, it does take time to prepare. So it's, you know, it can be. It can be definitely a sign of, hey, I care for you enough to make you tiny hot dog octopi. [00:09:17] Speaker B: Yeah, it was like Japan. You see that in american movies. Where. Where the girl band or the white, you know, goes out of her way to make a nice lunch for her. For her fella, you know? Yeah, yeah. So I just said so that I didn't realize. I didn't pick up earlier that his talking mom made her lunch. So. So it was not as excited because. [00:09:44] Speaker A: It'S lunchtime as per usual. [00:09:48] Speaker B: Oh, the other thing I want to talk about. So. So what do you think that drink box was? Was it juice? Was it some unique japanese drinks? Because I was reading that in Japan, I noticed they have vending machines everywhere. Is that true? [00:10:02] Speaker A: Yes. [00:10:03] Speaker B: Yeah, they do. The reason they can get away with that is that there's more respect for vending machines. They don't get vandalized like they do here. [00:10:12] Speaker A: Yeah, no, there's vending machines everywhere in Japan. And, like, just going around, for instance, in Tokyo, which is the second smallest prefecture, but it's also, like, the most highly populated, like, walking around Tokyo even in the middle of the busiest part of the day during a holiday weekend, because we were there during Obon, which we covered a little bit. I think in the last episode, it's just a festival about remembering the past and among other things. So that's kind of a simplified show. Honor to your ancestors. Yeah, but it was super busy. But there was, like, no trash on the ground that, like, trash cans are well maintained. Vending machines are well maintained. Even when we were in smaller places, like in the back roads, in neighborhoods and whatnot, it was like every time we found a vending machine or something like that, it was very nice. I think there's a. There's a big respect for the world around you. It feels like there. [00:11:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Did you know that there's no trash cans in London? [00:11:20] Speaker A: Wild. Not at all. [00:11:22] Speaker B: You know why? [00:11:23] Speaker A: Why? [00:11:24] Speaker B: No. Very few. Because. Because that's where the bombs would get placed. When they were, the irish republican army was fighting for independence. You remember that, right? There's a big conflict that basically, you know, Bono from U two helped end was the IRA in the struggle in Northern Ireland. And so they would bomb. They would put. They put bombs in the public trash cans in London. The terrorists would. Irish terrorists. So they got rid of the trash cans. [00:11:58] Speaker A: I mean, fair enough. [00:12:01] Speaker B: So I guess terrorism isn't. Isn't a concern in Japan. [00:12:06] Speaker A: I mean, it is and it isn't. There's a lot of as. As safe and secure as you feel when you're in Japan. It's part of the reason is when you're going there and you're a tourist. You're only going to these, like, well established places. But it's got its own series of problems underneath the surface. Japan's just very good at pr. [00:12:33] Speaker B: Japan's been involved in international warfare, you know, for quite a while. Yes. They definitely have some enemies. [00:12:44] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, for sure. [00:12:47] Speaker B: At any rate. So it's lunchtime at school, and we see the girls, a group of girls looking at a magazine. That's Naru, isn't it? Who is looking at. Okay, yeah. And one of the girls exclaims, amazing. And then all these people are amazing. And Naru says, what's amazing is the person who took these photos is in middle school. [00:13:09] Speaker A: And what, the prestigious Japan photo contest? [00:13:16] Speaker B: Yes. And then Naru reads that his name is. And then all of a sudden, Usagi decides to make this conversation her business. She walks over, grabs a magazine. She's like, oh, hey. And he goes to go hockey boys middle school, which I guess, which so happens. So happens right next to Ray's girl school. [00:13:45] Speaker A: I don't know if this is ever said out loud in the anime, but it's definitely covered in the manga. That raised school, ta girls academy is a catalyst school. And even though she. [00:14:00] Speaker B: Named it ga for tips and ass, because that's how. [00:14:03] Speaker A: I remember, you know. I don't know. [00:14:05] Speaker B: Um, probably not. [00:14:08] Speaker A: No. It is based on. I happen to have the information for that school pulled up. The school is based on, uh, Toyo iwa Yogakuin. Oh. Which is a private catholic school that's also located in the Minato ward of Tokyo. Sailor moon, they changed, or Toyo iwa to ta. And the architecture and many other aspects matched to real school. [00:14:31] Speaker B: I realized it was based on a real school. Interesting. It's interesting. [00:14:35] Speaker A: A lot of the stuff. A lot of the stuff in things like that in the anime are based off of real things because Nauvoo took a lot of inspiration from the neighborhood where she grew up, because she grew up in Java. So. [00:14:50] Speaker B: Okay. That's why. Yeah, that makes sense. Write what you know. That's what they say. [00:15:00] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:15:01] Speaker B: You know what makes it feel so real? [00:15:05] Speaker A: Oh, for sure. [00:15:06] Speaker B: I mean, so now the other week, grabbed the magazine the girls were looking at. She takes the magazine over to Ami and interrupts Ami's doing math. Ami doing compensating math. And it was AGI comes over with this magazine and she's like, did you, did you read this about this boy who goes to school right next to Ray's school? And Ami says, of course. It's like, yeah, right. It didn't make sense to me. But it's like, well, Ami reads, you know, he's a big reader, so that made sense to me that Ami would know that, because I see Ami, like, taking time out to look at landscape photos. You know what I mean? She's pretty busy. [00:15:57] Speaker A: I mean, she. I mean, but she does have an appreciation for the arts and things like that. Like, she has. Well, she does love to study, and, you know, studying is her precious youth. She. She has a lot of, like, she's. She's GOt a lot of things that she studies. She's well grounded in her knowledge. [00:16:19] Speaker B: Well, and then having her be an Android then would have made more sense that you'd be super knowledgeable in all these areas. She's just super smart. [00:16:28] Speaker A: Yep. [00:16:29] Speaker B: Yeah. And SO. So usagi is. Decides that she wants to. She wants to meet this boy, she wants this famous person in their midst, and she goes. She kind of gives this little speech about we're only young once, and we should have some fun. And it's just funny because it's. I need to always have some Fun. [00:16:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:53] Speaker B: Always. Wet blanket is like, I am having fun. Studying is fun for me. [00:17:01] Speaker A: I'm not west. I'm not wasting anything. What are you talking abOut? Yeah. Precious youth. Yeah. [00:17:09] Speaker B: Usagi just goes, oh, you're hopeless. [00:17:11] Speaker A: And the reason why Usagi wants to get the autograph is just because, uh, he's famous. [00:17:16] Speaker B: He's famous, right? He's a famous dude at this point. [00:17:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:20] Speaker B: It's because he's famous now. [00:17:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:23] Speaker B: Later in the episode, it turned out that he changes his subject matter and really interested in yanium. But we'll get this. We'll get there. [00:17:33] Speaker A: We'll get there. Yes. [00:17:36] Speaker B: So then, uh. So then we. We cut you. Um, I took down reveal, the small group of reporters interviewing a boy, and I have here whose hair looks like a badger belt, kind of. [00:17:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Some of the hairstyles of this show just really, you know what I'm talking about. [00:17:56] Speaker B: It's not like it sounds really a stunt. It's more of a badger. [00:17:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So true. Oh, my God. I never thought of it that way, but the more I think about it, I'm like, no, that's his hair reminds me of the kids in thundercats. Like, that there was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of that vibe. [00:18:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I get that. I didn't really watch thundercats when I'd seen it. [00:18:30] Speaker A: I was that good. It is. It is. It's silly. It's. I like it, and it's good, but it's also silly. It's like a very. It's right. I don't know if you ever watched he man, but it's very like he man five. It's. We gotta stop. Yeah, but it's good. [00:18:51] Speaker B: It's. [00:18:51] Speaker A: It's like, I can't be good. And I enjoy it. [00:18:53] Speaker B: Yeah. When I. So, like, when I grew up, like, so I remember when I died, Johnny Cat, have you appeared to watch Akira? I told you that about, you know, that I was in, I was in the japanese animation before you guys were born and. [00:19:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:09] Speaker B: So when I was. When I was growing up, there was no anime, there was no imported, except for the stuff that was made for the american market, which was like speed Racer, Voltron, Starblazers, those early shows that were, those were many things in the american market. And of course, the animation is so poor, it's ridiculous. [00:19:33] Speaker A: But it's like good but bad. It's like a bad. [00:19:38] Speaker B: You know what causes that, right? It's the frame rate. It's a number of frames that they shot of each. Of each draw itself. Yeah. There's 24 frames in a section of film because it was all kind of dull. And most, most revision animation, they drew every other second, or they drew every other frame. So each second, somebody had to draw and paint twelve, you know, twelve different images for 1 second. [00:20:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:07] Speaker B: In Japan, I was like, it was like they did, um, out of the 24, they did like five or six. So that's why it looks so dumb now with computers. It's. It's a moot point, you know? [00:20:20] Speaker A: It's true. [00:20:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Um, like, the Simpsons. The Simpsons changed the Simpsons when it first came out. Um, the american animators drew the important stuff, the transitions, and then they sent to China, and they kind of fill in the gaps of what they may. It would have been hard, I think, to do that at first, to communicate, you know, what you need to do to fill in the gaps. But they got through it. And of course, slowly you can see the difference when systems change, computer animation. Now, with traditional cellular animation, sometimes the cells separate a little bit and you get shadowing. You ever see, you ever notice that in old animation, you just shadow? It's kind of interesting. [00:21:07] Speaker A: Anyway, I would, if somebody walked up to me and said, hey, I have this three hour documentary about animation. Do you want to sit down right now and watch it? I would say yes, thank you. I would like to. Yes. Yes. [00:21:20] Speaker B: Yeah. It's kind of fascinating, isn't it? [00:21:23] Speaker A: It really is. [00:21:26] Speaker B: I didn't play animation. [00:21:27] Speaker A: That's so cool. I love. Like, stop motion is some of my favorite kind of animation because it's just the dedication it takes to do stop motion. [00:21:38] Speaker B: When I was a kid. [00:21:40] Speaker A: That's so cool. [00:21:41] Speaker B: Yeah. When I was, so when I was 13, when I was 13, I had, I went out and I drummed up business that summer, mowing lawns, and I saved all my lawn mowing money. And at the end of the summer, I bought a super eight camera and I bought a projector and bought a projector and a little editing, a little editor, a little real to real editor so I could make my own home movies. And I did. The thing is, when you're that age, it's hard to get your friends to take you seriously to make movies with them. They want to goof off as somebody. [00:22:17] Speaker A: Who did the same. Yes. [00:22:21] Speaker B: And so that was what appealed to me about animation, was I had control. I didn't have to deal with that. Yeah, it's funny, you know, I go out, I told everybody I wanted to be a director and I thought I did until I actually worked on a movie set. And I saw what, I don't want to be director. I don't want to tell the actors what to do, you know? [00:22:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:49] Speaker B: Because I could see judges struggling, like, if the actors weren't doing a good job. It's hard to get a good performance out of somebody who's that talented, you know what I mean? Yeah. I definitely worked with some actors who weren't talented, I'll say that. But it was more interesting to me working with the ones who were. [00:23:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:10] Speaker B: There's a lot more going on than people realize when act was happy. You gotta hit your marks without it looking like you're hitting your marks. You know what I mean? Yeah. Other people don't realize this. With film cameras, especially, the focal length is very tight and there's a person whose job it is to adjust the focus. So when an azure moves, that person has to calculate how many feet away from the camera they are and. Yeah, well, be actors. We'd have to read you takes because it'd be out of focus. [00:23:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:48] Speaker B: That was heartbreaking because sometimes that would be great performance. And I'd be like, no, we have to go again. Because they didn't hit their marks, you know? [00:23:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:57] Speaker B: You don't have that problem in animation. Animation is always in focus. All right. [00:24:04] Speaker A: I used to, you, you talk about having your, your own, like, editing system and all that stuff. I used to, when I, I was a kid when I would go to my mom's for the summer I would steal her camera, which had at that point. Cause back in the day when my dad had his camcorder and it took like a whole vhs and all that stuff, big thing, I would still set it up and, like, it would be me and my sister and my brother and our neighborhood friend acting out the opening cutscenes of video games that we liked or things like that. And then as I got older, I would take my mom's camera and I would do, like, tons of, like, in camera editing. So, like, and I would, I got creative with it there. I did a whole bunch of, like, stop motion animations and things like that. And I would, because I was doing all of my editing in camera. If I wanted music for a scene, I would literally get my headphones and hold up my headphones to the, the microphone on the camera so I could get that specific part of a song for moments. And so, yeah, there's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. Video production was my favorite thing. [00:25:15] Speaker B: Yeah. But I think kids now, because of YouTube and some of that, there's a lot more general knowledge of production, video production then, like, when I was growing up, when I was growing up, it was just the people who did that movie people, they were the only ones who knew this stuff now, because so many people make video content, you know, there's a lot of people who know, you know, how to add it, stuff like that now, for sure. So as somebody whose career it was to ever done high end movies where you spend hours and hours and hours lighting a single shot, you know, which you don't think youtubers don't do that. [00:26:04] Speaker A: You know, ring light or something. [00:26:08] Speaker B: The image quality in general, the image quality has gone down in the last 20 years, you know, and for, as I was a snob, so I was like, I was like, why is everyone so excited about this, you know, video on the Internet, it looks like crap. It really does. I mean, to be fair. [00:26:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:28] Speaker B: But the thing of it is that it opened up a whole new world for people to express themselves. People who otherwise wouldn't have had a chance to, you know what I mean? [00:26:37] Speaker A: Oh, for sure, yeah. [00:26:38] Speaker B: Final analysis. I have to say, it's been a good thing as far as content goes. Not that great for the visual aesthetic. [00:26:47] Speaker A: Sure, sure. But I mean, and it's easier now than ever to, to learn those skills because everything's digital now. So it's just like, I need to slice this scene and this scene together and move the audio so that it's here and it's like, right. You know, it takes all of 30 seconds if you're being really picky about it. Yeah. [00:27:11] Speaker B: Well, you know, thanks for digital editing. Right? [00:27:16] Speaker A: Who? [00:27:17] Speaker B: George Lucas? George Lucas was the one. Everyone doing Star wars. His contributions to the industry and the technical area are amazing. Like, yeah, basically, like, avid, which was the first he created that I've used avid. [00:27:40] Speaker A: I used that when I did my internship at the city city council because I work for the public television and I used avid. And that was a lot of fun. [00:27:50] Speaker B: That used to be all there was. Did you know that that was the only child there was ranting was Navid. [00:27:57] Speaker A: Wow. [00:27:58] Speaker B: I've done a great job with digressing right away. Let's talk about Taylor Cohen. [00:28:04] Speaker A: Sorry. You digressed into something I love. [00:28:07] Speaker B: I know it is on topic because this is an animated show. So completely off topic. So. Badger pelt. [00:28:17] Speaker A: Badger pelt. Yes. [00:28:19] Speaker B: This is when we learned. Oh, this is when I wrote down his name. Teejin. Yes. We learned from the interview that he does landscape photography. That's his best. [00:28:33] Speaker A: And he's very, like, very shy and nervous. [00:28:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:39] Speaker A: And very apologetic. [00:28:40] Speaker B: He doesn't really know how to handle being interviewed. He gives one more answer. How does it feel to won the Japan photo contest? And he's like, great. It wasn't, it wasn't like watching people get interviewed. He wasn't very charming. [00:28:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:54] Speaker B: So he's getting interviewed in who rounds the corner? But a group. Girls have been hunting him down. That's who. [00:29:02] Speaker A: The leader of the pack. [00:29:03] Speaker B: We hear Usagi saying, yep, there he is. And they run towards Tegan. And then all of a sudden, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, Ray holds out her arm like it's a railroad crossing. And she's like, that's far enough. Stop being a fan girl. And so I was already interested about the term fanboy and fangirl, so I went, I went ahead and looked it up, and it was interesting. It wasn't exactly what I thought I was going to be. So it turns out that fangirl comes from a 1943 book called Holy Deadlock. And it used to describe women who are obsessed with musicians. And it became the term fandril gained popularity in the early sixties in the era of the Beatles. Now, Fanboy is different. Fanboy comes from a 1973 magazine called Fanboy by the figure of Jay lynch and Glenn Bray. Lynch was inspired by Funboy from an earlier humor magazine that he had worked on, and he mashed up with fan to describe obsessive comic book devotees. So it's kind of the same thing. Fan girl comes from 1943 to describe girls who are obsessed with musicians, which I didn't realize in 1943 that was with me. I thought groupies kind of came with rock and roll, but apparently I feel. [00:30:37] Speaker A: Like groupies have always existed in a way, but we just didn't have the name for them. [00:30:43] Speaker B: Right. Okay. [00:30:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:46] Speaker B: Have you ever seen. Is it. Is there a movie called Fan Boys with, um, uh, Christian Bell? [00:30:51] Speaker A: I think so. And. And it's about Star wars nerds. Yes, Star wars nerds. And one of them's, like, terminally ill and needs to go see the new Star wars movie. [00:31:02] Speaker B: Yeah, they want to break into the Skywalker ranch. Yeah, that's can worth. All right, so anyway, fangirl, and probably with no knowledge that you were describing of 1943 book. Cause Fandrel now, I think Fandrel now is used to describe girls who are into comic books, isn't it? [00:31:25] Speaker A: A fan girl can be used to describe any sort of female presenting person who is excited about something. Like, for instance, it's so widely used now that it's used as a verb. Like, fangirling is a big thing where it's just like, when you're sitting there gushing about something you absolutely love. So, like, I fan girl over sailor Moon all the fucking time. [00:31:49] Speaker B: Do you know anybody like Walt? You know anyone who gets really excited talking about something they love? So excited they can't talk sometimes. Okay, fangirl. [00:31:59] Speaker A: Fangirling. [00:32:00] Speaker B: And so the race starts berating Usagi about being a fan girl, saying, you have no appreciation for his art. You only. You're only interested in him because he's famous. And. [00:32:12] Speaker A: And Usagi says, I don't want you to. Yes. [00:32:21] Speaker B: The coastline. And he's in a very dangerous position off the road. And crouch down, he's scanning the horizon, and he remarks to himself, the lighted dust changes so fast. And I just wrote down in my notes, photography 101, dude. Anyway, I would be, as a landscape doctor Greer, he would have noticed that before. Nevertheless, he's in middle school. True, true. He raises a huge teleporter lens to his eye. [00:32:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:58] Speaker B: And says, there, that's the shot shutter chance. That's a couple of photos of the setting sun, which, by the way, totally looks like a mother cloud. Did you notice that? [00:33:10] Speaker A: I did not, but now I'm gonna go back and look. [00:33:16] Speaker B: Okay, now we have to talk about a little bit about photography here for a second. Because you're supposed to be a photographer. Do not use a huge teleporter lens for landscape photography. The teleporter lens is used for photographing something very small at a great distance, so it makes you look on doing light. Teleporter lenses are used by people who do wildlife photography because animals, and they're also used like the best photographers, the best camera operators in the world are, believe it or not, are guys who shoot golf. Because in golf, you have this little, tiny white ball, and when you're shooting it for tv, you have to follow it in the air and follow it with the camera and keep it in the shot. Very, very hard to do. And those guys, those guys use teleporter lenses. You do not use a teleporter lens for a landscape shot. You don't take a close up of the sun. [00:34:15] Speaker A: Well, you know what Kijin does. Okay. [00:34:24] Speaker B: I don't know. You were signing trophy for him anyway. I just thought it was funny. The reason, of course, that they do that, put that big lens on the camera is just visual storytelling. He's a camera guy. [00:34:41] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And of course, as he's taking this shutter chance, beautiful photo of the sunset in this precarious cliff face that he's standing on, he slips and falls straight into Nefaright's waiting arms. [00:34:59] Speaker B: Right? Yeah. It was, of course, a given that he was going to slip out of that position. And Nefright is holding on with one hand and reaches down with his other hand to grab him and catch him as he falls. In doing so, Qijin drops his camera. And so Netflix pulls him up and then reaches down for the camera. And when he reaches down for the camera, that's when he enchants it. [00:35:28] Speaker A: My exact notes are, that's a fancy camera you have. It would suck if someone cursed it. [00:35:34] Speaker B: Exactly. Then, you know, so really, I noticed this in this episode when. When Lev, right. And Chad's an item, right. When he, when he puts his crest on an item, the image we were walking turned black and white and wearing very good camera. And I was, okay, is that because it's a photography episode or did that happen before? So I went back and I looked at all the other episodes of Nep, right? And it turns out they're different. And I'll tell you how the anime goes to black and white and nephrite fest glows kind of a red, orange and the large optical glass at the end of the teleporter lens. And he doesn't say anything. He just reaches out and kind of like with the force or whatever, he puts his crest on the camera, and it glows red orange on the lens. Now, in previous episodes. In episode 14, nephron's crest, the image goes to black and white. The crest goes red, orange, same as. Same as in this episode at the bottom of the chest packet handle. And then he uses the spell, in this case, comes with a verbal spell. And he says, hear me my monster. And then in episode 15, usagi's panic, the image flashes multicolor, then turns to black and white. And the crest glows a blue green on the face of the hat. And he says once again, he says, hear me, my monster. When he puts the crest on. In episode 16, a girl's dream, the image does not change color and the crest lashes about red on the pattern. So iT's different. The crest is a different color. When Ray goes on a date, the gardener, we can chance to done that. It's a different color to get him a blue green. And then in, um, in a girl's dream, it doesn't go to black and white. When, when he chants the fabric, the image does not change color. And he also doesn't say, hear me, my monster. He's just, he's just standing there in the, you know, with the melee of the girls at the fabric store. He just quickly enchanted. But that was the most stealth version of enchanting. So I'm interested in this because I'm still. I'm so confused about what Nepro is doing exactly. Is he using the stars? Is he using the stars to determine energy? And this is why. Because in this episode, we see Keegan shooting a sunset and all of a sudden nephrite's there to save the day. Why would nevrid be there? Why would Nephrite be there? And because in the following scene, we see him consulting the stars. Like, wait a minute, here's my theory. [00:38:44] Speaker A: Are you ready for my theory? [00:38:45] Speaker B: Okay. [00:38:46] Speaker A: All right. My theory is that it is like a flashback scene. [00:38:52] Speaker B: Okay? All right. [00:38:53] Speaker A: So it's, rather than having it at the beginning and like being like, oh, here's the, here's what he's doing now. We have a person. It's like a flashback of him doing it, figuring out who it is and then being like, yes, that's my. [00:39:09] Speaker B: I already thought about that. So I went back and looked. It turns out this is not the first time he's done this. In, um, a girl's dream when, when Aruna is talking to, um, what's her face about, um, when they run into each other shop. Yeah. In that scene, they're talking outside of the dressmaker shop and he, Ray is saying. He's saying that, you know, oh, you didn't make your dress. You know, I hope it turns out. I hope your wedding's great, because I'm looking for a husband there. And then we see Nep right in his sports car, listening in on the conversation. And then after that, it cuts to came in the mansion, consulting the stars. So it's out of order because I wouldn't be listening on their conversation, you know what I mean? Before the stars have told him. So then in this, in this episode, he saved the kid's life, and he said, keep taking those pictures. I'm a big fan of your work. So he had the magazine, too. So when you go to the mansion, which is a very nice scene, he has the magazine with him and he throws it on the floor, and he says that Sirius the demon star, shines, shines its light. And normally, when he's getting information from the stars, a beam of light comes from this blinking star. A beam of light comes and hits him in the forehead. And that's when he finds out whose energy is going to be, is going to. The beam of light does not hit him in the forehead. Beam of light hits the magazine laying on the floor, and he says it points to Keegan, whatever his last name is. So that, right, he has the magazine with the kid in it, and he's already saved the kid's life because he said he's a big fan of his work. And then the star, something that that kid just so happens to be among, his energy is going to be the highest. This is called continuity. Mattyeh. There's a continuity error in here. I don't think it's the last. I think it's a continuity error. It's just. It's just more dramatic. It's more dramatic to say Keith and almost lose his life and nephrite sweeps in and save them because it didn't. Makes Nephrite look like he's a good guy. He's not. [00:41:36] Speaker A: He's going to be there. Indeed he is. [00:41:40] Speaker B: A camera into a monster camera. Yeah. Not a good guy also, by the way. By the way, it's true. [00:41:49] Speaker A: I'm convinced that he's avoiding her because he keeps fucking. He keeps fucking up. You know, he doesn't want to face her. Well, and, yeah, she's got, she's got eternal sleep powers. [00:42:00] Speaker B: You. I don't want eternal slumber. [00:42:03] Speaker A: I mean, it might be nice to just like, take a forever nap, but not like in the. In the sense of being dead, but just to rest for, you know, however long until somebody wakes me up. [00:42:16] Speaker B: So it's also just weird because the stars tapping him in the forehead, where the stars pointing to magazine articles and, you know, the stars can do what they want. [00:42:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:28] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. [00:42:30] Speaker A: All right. I like. Shortly after the picking of the victim scene in Nephrite's chateau, I like that it cuts to Heejin. And he's like, I feel the urge to take photos of lots of girls. [00:42:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:47] Speaker A: Which I'm like. [00:42:48] Speaker B: And that's the term. Yes. He's like, art is an explosion. So what happened is you have mild mannered ShoesHine boy, which is, of course, an UnderDOg reference. Mild mannered Shoeshine boy all of a sudden becomes this crazy photographer who wants to photograph girls, which makes more Sense BecauSe people do that. Photographers who specialize in high end badge and Cover girls and the shooting supermodels. THose guys are all weird, and THey're both manic energy just. Just like teaching and suddenly become. And art is an expLosion. He keeps saying that. He keeps saying Artisan exploded. And I like that he's sitting there cleaning his cameras, and he's getting more and more worked up about PHotographing girls. And he knows that's his goal. You know, the more the merrier, basically, is what he says and done. So then we cut to. Luna's giving usagi the new. Their new communicators. ANd UsAgi's first THought with the communicators is, oh, good. I can tell how many. You know, we're gonna go. We're gonna go by and get THis GuY's autograph. [00:44:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:09] Speaker B: And although humans, she's. I'm sorry. In the publication that says that you're looking for models, that's what it is. They're looking for models. And he's excited to tell Ami that. And Ami is my blanket, Sonny. The communicators are only supposed to be used for official business. [00:44:31] Speaker A: And, oh, by the way, I can't talk anymore. I'm doing math. [00:44:34] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm definitely not that interested in this particular obsession of it. [00:44:43] Speaker A: No. [00:44:44] Speaker B: I feel like by this point, you shouldn't be surprised that Ami doesn't share her passions for some of this stuff. You know what I mean? [00:44:53] Speaker A: I think she, as much as she's not surprised, she's also not. She's always been a fan girl. Right? [00:45:01] Speaker B: Right. [00:45:02] Speaker A: Yeah. And I love that. Right after that, when Ami's like, I have to go do math. Go away. She's like, I could call Raydhe. Wait, Rachel's gonna yell at me again. [00:45:13] Speaker B: That's what it exactly. It's like you thought better giving rage call. I like that. [00:45:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:45:22] Speaker B: So, important fact, you can't find anybody who can be excited for her because next we see her talking to her brother. [00:45:31] Speaker A: Yes. [00:45:32] Speaker B: By the way, how old is her brother shingle is? [00:45:38] Speaker A: That's a good question. Let me look it up real quick. [00:45:42] Speaker B: He's younger brother though, right? He's a younger younger brother. Right. But he can't be my mic since we find out in next episode he has a girlfriend. [00:45:50] Speaker A: True. Shingo is ten to twelve. [00:45:57] Speaker B: Okay. I'm going to be having a girlfriend, by the way. [00:46:01] Speaker A: I mean, I'm not gonna judge. [00:46:04] Speaker B: How old were you when you had your first boyfriend? [00:46:06] Speaker A: I was in 5th, 4th or fifth grade? Fifth grade, I think. How old are you on fifth grade? Well, I was always a year younger than everybody because my birthday's in the summer, so. [00:46:18] Speaker B: And then that's when he. That's when he says it takes more than just good looks. You gotta have brilliance. [00:46:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:24] Speaker B: He basically calls her. Use the term brainless bunny. He calls her a brainless bunny. I got browser prevention recording. I have to repry. [00:46:34] Speaker A: I mean, you know. [00:46:36] Speaker B: All right. [00:46:37] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. Hello, I can. [00:46:44] Speaker B: Hello, I'm. [00:46:46] Speaker A: Hello. Hello. Welcome back. [00:46:48] Speaker B: All right, very good, very good. Thank you sending me back. So no luck with her brother in getting any support on her becoming a model? So she goes, you know, now she's looking for the comfort of strangers. She's at the game center talking to Matoki. [00:47:08] Speaker A: She has a moment with her mom before that where Shingo is saying, you're way too dumb to be a model. Models need to know things to. And then he's like, miss Dummy fails, you know? And then she's like, mom, Shingo's being mean to me. And her mom is. Oh, I thought Shingo was right. Like, no sympathy from mom. No sympathy. [00:47:34] Speaker B: None. So that's the old Jimmy token. And he's being very supportive. You mean, he's not saying that your model material, but he is saying, try your hardest. [00:47:51] Speaker A: I always gotta try. Yeah. [00:47:53] Speaker B: Yeah. In my world, she does have what it takes to be a model. You know what I mean? She's very. She's very attractive. [00:48:01] Speaker A: Mm hmm. [00:48:05] Speaker B: So Mato, she's telling her to try her hardest. And then we see Bomber, who's there, and mama, try your hardest. But it probably won't work out. [00:48:16] Speaker A: He says. He explains what it's like, what makes a good model and all of that stuff. But being a model is dumb as well, because they think simply looking good makes a girl beautiful. A girl's beauty is not just her look. It's what's on her inside kind heart. Doing what she thinks is right. [00:48:36] Speaker B: Right. And the important thing here is that doing what she thinks is right, I. That's a very important, very important element. A girl stand up for what is right. [00:48:47] Speaker A: Girls have guts. [00:48:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Um, now I think he's off a little bit off. I don't think a lot of models have strong convictions. You know, when they. When there's beauty. When there's beauty pageants, you see them up there getting interviewed. You know that they volunteered for a charity simply because it looks good for the pageanthe. [00:49:08] Speaker A: Yeah. I think it's interesting at the end of that scene when she walks away, and we have a moment at the end of the scene where it lingers on Mamoru's face, and he says, I guess we weren't meant for each other. And there's like a curious background tone while we're lingering on his face. What do you think that means? [00:49:30] Speaker B: As in what? [00:49:32] Speaker A: Like a curious little background note. Like a. It's mister. [00:49:35] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. To himself, where he says, I guess we weren't meant for each other. So here's my thing with that is, when was it suggested they were meant for each other? They've always been argumentative. [00:49:48] Speaker A: I don't know. Maybe he's trying to be friendlier because. Because she's telling him to keep going. [00:49:57] Speaker B: Yeah. He's like, you really shouldn't be so hard on her. She's a really good person. [00:50:02] Speaker A: Yeah. I guess we weren't meant for each other. [00:50:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Curious, curious. [00:50:10] Speaker B: Yeah. I wrote the same thing down. What should I say? I guess it's the z. Four years. What you say? I guess she and I just weren't meant for each other. [00:50:20] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:50:21] Speaker B: Why do they linger on that particular century? I don't know. How would I know? It's not like you're teaching. In movies, they tell me things about what happens in the future. [00:50:32] Speaker A: I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't even know why he would say that. Or why they linger on that. That's so curious. [00:50:40] Speaker B: Right. And so in my notes, I have a little. A little asterisk. And I wrote, people who have questions often quarrel with each other before realizing that they're hot for each other. So maybe that's it. Maybe it's like he realizes that they're one of those couples who starts out, perhaps we'll see. Because that does happen. If somebody's really getting under your skin. That person probably has some significance for you. You know what I mean? There's plenty of annoying people out there who simply are just silly to me. They don't really get to me. Get to me. Are the ones I end up caring about. [00:51:20] Speaker A: Wait, are you trying to say that I was annoying when you first met. [00:51:24] Speaker B: You kept correcting my grammar. [00:51:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. That was to do. I'm not so harsh on spelling anymore and grammar. I'm like, if it's understood what you mean, it's good. [00:51:36] Speaker B: It was funny because I know I'm a terrible speller. It's not my fault. It's not my fault. Listen, this is true. In the seventies, they had this thing. It was called Itae. And what it was was, it was phonetics. And so when I went to school, we didn't get taught how to read normally. We had a special section in the library called Ita. And it was for the kids who were in kindergarten, first and second grade. And all those were written in phonetics. And so we didn't start reading regular words until third grade, and nobody could spell because we'd been reading words raw. And that's actually why they. That's why they pulled the program and said the children had a detrimental effect on children's ability to spell. But I was in an experimental group. I had revealed children born in. Children born between 60, 80 and 71 were subjected to this great idea called Ita, which, in fact, it just made a generation of bad spellers. So it's not my fault. [00:52:42] Speaker A: Happens to the best of us. Happens to the best of us. [00:52:45] Speaker B: It's not my fault. Maddie, I'm saying. [00:52:48] Speaker A: All right. I won't hold it against you. [00:52:51] Speaker B: All right, so guess what. Guess what. Guess what? She gets excited. Yeah. [00:53:01] Speaker A: And Shingo is genuinely surprised. [00:53:04] Speaker B: Yes, he is. And do you know what that means, Maddie? It means that it's time for a montage. You should see America Wolfley trait. Gonna have a montage. [00:53:16] Speaker A: It's been. It's been a hot minute since I've seen it. [00:53:19] Speaker B: Well, there's literally a song called gonna have a montage. And so for listeners who don't know what a montage is, it's a series of quick cuts that shows time passing. Unlike in the movie Rocky, when he's trained to be. To be a fighter, when he's trained for the fight, and we see him drinking raw eggs, jogging up and down stairs in Philadelphia Capitol building. Cut to beating out pieces of meat. It's all quick cuts of things showing the viewer that a person is preparing for something. Usually they're getting ready for something. Or another montage would be like when the outcasts form their own fraternity and they get a fraternity house and you show a montage of them cleaning up the fraternity house and painting it and getting it ready for them at the montage. In this case, the montage is usagi getting ready for her model shoot. [00:54:14] Speaker A: Yes. And she is walking around with books on her head, practicing her addiction and all of that stuff. And Luna, as ever, is very skeptical. Yes. It's been destroyed by moths and bugs. She's devastated. But, you know, I've had clothes destroyed by rodents before, and it's super. This just sad because you go and you're like, I'm gonna wear this thing. Yeah. True, true, true, true. I've just had clothes destroyed by rodents because, you know, they're like, ooh, soft bedding. I can raise my litter gear or what have you. Yeah. And that's. That was. A lot of that happened when my stuff was in storage for years. So going through my boxes, I'm like, no. Why? So, you know, I can. Yes. Okay. Sounds good. I don't know. [00:55:17] Speaker B: All right. Can you hear me now? [00:55:18] Speaker A: I can. Yes. [00:55:20] Speaker B: All right, so now we cut to. Art is an explosion. Emily. We're at a. We're at a pool. The photo shoot is at a pool. A public pool or something like that. And Keegan's instructing the various models that he wants them to stay in their gussie rooms until he's ready for them because he doesn't want to be interrupted. He doesn't want them interrupting his creative process, which turns out, is not true. Right. Why is it a closed shoot, Matty? Why is the real reason? [00:55:56] Speaker A: Uh huh. Because his camera is actually just absorbing people. [00:56:04] Speaker B: That's right. [00:56:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:07] Speaker B: His camera is absorbing energy. He's making the models. A beam of light comes out of his camera and makes him disappear. [00:56:15] Speaker A: Yep. Which, I mean, I feel like that's a step up from all the other ones that we've seen, because every other energy gathering scheme has not caused mass disappearances. [00:56:27] Speaker B: Right. I know. Yeah, this. Yeah, this is definitely. This is a force to be reckoned with. And it's a harder bite, too, coming up. [00:56:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And Usagi is not Usagi. Luna is very sus about the whole thing. [00:56:43] Speaker B: Once again, Luna's always sus. She picks up on. She's got good monster radar. [00:56:53] Speaker A: Yeah. She's got great intuition. She's just like, whoa, something's hinky here. [00:56:58] Speaker B: Right? So then Keegan gives art is an explosion once again. When I sense the movement, when I sense the moment is right, I get it close and boom. I'm a photographic genius. But what? He's not a photographic genius. What actually is happening is a beam light shoots out of the camera. Models get bathed in prismatic colors, turning into white silhouettes, and then disappear. So Luna goes to tell her Luna can sneak in because she's a cat. So she's in that movie about being seen, and she sees the girls disappearing, and she runs to Tabusagi, who, by the way, is having none of it. She doesn't want to hear anything about any monsters or anything like that. This is a big chance to be a model. She doesn't want to get a buzz kill. So what does Luna do? [00:57:47] Speaker A: Luna? Well, first of all, I want to point out that Usagi sticks under her bathing suit is super cute. She just tied a bunch of bows through all of the mop holes, and it looks adorable. [00:58:00] Speaker B: It does. So Luna steals one of the bows, leaving a hole in her bathing suit, and Usagi gets mad at her and chases after her. Luna's got the bow in her mouth and runs to the pool, which draws Usagi out. Usagi is breaking the rule of disturbing the shoot. And then Usagi sees that the camera is making girls disappear, and she realizes that it's for real. [00:58:26] Speaker A: Yes. And she specifically sees the group that has both Haruta, Sakurata and Haruna and Naru, and they get all absorbed into the camera, and she's like, Shit. And she immediately confronts him before transforming. She's like, wait, we gotta talk about this. And first thing out of her mouth is basically word for word what Mamoru said to her. [00:58:53] Speaker B: I. Yeah, that's right. Mamaru says that anybody who will just shoot anyone, it's a second or second rate photographer at best, maybe a third rate photographer. And then decide he said the same thing, which Luna does not fail to mention. [00:59:13] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Excuse me. You just basically said what he said. How dare you. [00:59:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:20] Speaker A: And in response to that, she gets shoved by hegemony, who doesn't want any of that. [00:59:27] Speaker B: Then we get the transformation power makeup. Usagi transforms, and she does a new attack. You notice that? Sailor moon kick. [00:59:38] Speaker A: She does Sailor Moon kick, but she also doesn't say Tsuki Niko ate Oshokyo at the end of her transformation speech. She instead specifically calls out the. I think she said something about the photography situation, but she says something different at the end of her speech, where she. And then she says something different at. [01:00:03] Speaker B: The end, which is what? Which is what? In English. I'm the pretty guardian who fights. [01:00:07] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm the pretty guardian who fights for love and justice. Sailor Moon. Pretty suited Sailor soldier who fights eleven justice. Sailor Moon. And Tsukiniko ate Oshokyo is in the name of the moon. I'll punish you. [01:00:19] Speaker B: Right. Okay. [01:00:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:21] Speaker B: So then she busts out a new attack. Sailor Moencher. [01:00:24] Speaker A: Yes. Her most famous. [01:00:27] Speaker B: And then the Yoma tells us her name. Yoma says, my name is Chimera. [01:00:38] Speaker A: It's camera. Camera. It's camera with an a. So Cameron kind of. [01:00:44] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. So we don't really have to do any research on whether that Yoma's name came from. [01:00:49] Speaker A: No. Then it's already obvious. [01:00:53] Speaker B: And then, so Chandler Mullen is like, careful teaching. If you keep using that camera, it's going to steal your energy. And then it does. She realizes that. She realizes that he's been chemo taken over. [01:01:07] Speaker A: Yep. [01:01:09] Speaker B: And Luna, once Sailor Moon, Cameron takes this, your picture, he'll be stuck inside the polygraph forever. [01:01:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:19] Speaker B: And. [01:01:22] Speaker A: Cameron. [01:01:24] Speaker B: So Sandra Moon dodges a couple of attempts where the camera almost picture of her. And then Lulu realizes that she's in trouble. Luna rushes out and dives in front of one of the shots and takes a bow for Sailor Moon. [01:01:39] Speaker A: It takes a Polaroid for Sailor Moon. Really? [01:01:41] Speaker B: Yeah. There you go. Yeah. [01:01:43] Speaker A: And. Yeah. And Sailor Moon is devastated. She's like, no, no. I. What? No. Oh, God. We should mention that previously, before she. Before the bow was taken, she did call Ami chan on her new communicator that she got at the beginning of the episode. [01:02:02] Speaker B: Yep. [01:02:03] Speaker A: So the other girls are alerted and supposedly are on their way. [01:02:07] Speaker B: Right. Which doesn't. Which makes sense because then. Then all of a sudden, Sailor Mercury and Sailor Mars appear and mercury yells out, holds it right there and gives her a bubble spray. And then Mars. Mars starts Gassier's bells, which turns out Cameron blocks them. So. Bubble spray. Yeah. Norm normally see, maybe wonder if maybe Mars should use fire soul instead of, you know, I feel like. [01:02:42] Speaker A: I feel like it wouldn't have worked anyway because as we see next is Kyomaran basically has taken photos of their powers, like the mist and all of that stuff, and turns both of them into photos as well without actually taking pictures of them. She took pictures of their attacks and they were absorbed. [01:03:05] Speaker B: I didn't notice that. Thank you. I noticed that. Good point. Sailor Moon's having a tough time dodging these attacks, and Sailor Moon's going to be next. She realizes because now that Yoma has gotten Luna or gotten Xi Jin has got Luna trapped in a photograph, and now Mars and mercury are trapped in a photograph, and it's not looking good for Sailor Moon. And then she realizes to herself, hey, wait, what if the Yoma takes a picture of herself? [01:03:37] Speaker A: Which is a good thought that, heck, yeah, I have. [01:03:44] Speaker B: I don't like Medusa. [01:03:47] Speaker A: Yeah. I wrote down, it's moments like these that we remember. Usagi is definitely a ditz, but she's not dumb. Like, they always talk about how she's feeling stuff, but it's just like. Because she didn't really apply herself. But she thinks about the reflection bit all by herself. She. Based on something that Lewis said. She was just like, oh, wait, maybe I can try this. And ends up saving the day. It's very similar to a couple episodes back when she had the microphone and she was like, wait a minute. If they sing into the microphone, it's gonna hurt them because amplification and all that stuff. So it's just like, Usagi is actually. She is smart in her own way, and I love it. I love that. In this episode, not saved by anyone. [01:04:33] Speaker B: Yeah, that's just frayed on tortoise replacement thing those children call. Jeez, look at that. And it works. She realizes she's standing, probably something reflective. She jumps out of the way as a yoma, takes the picture. And then the yoma's like, no, I've been trapped by my own camera. And I was like, yeah, wait a minute. Normally, if someone had, okay, let's say you're a black mage. That gives you immunity to fire, usually because it's your base of attack. Normally, if you're a rock dragon, you have immunity to cold attacks. You would think that a yoma who comes from a camera would have the ability. I'd photograph herself. You know what I mean? But apparently not. [01:05:18] Speaker A: I mean, this was. I don't think they were thinking that far ahead. This was before selfies, back when they were still only party picks. [01:05:27] Speaker B: Good point. Good point. So tell them what? The idea works. [01:05:32] Speaker A: You held the camera out and you took your picture, and you were just like, I'm gonna take this picture with my friends. Hope it turns out okay. I'll find out when it's developed. [01:05:40] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. So I don't know that yoma gets trapped in the camera, but it does freeze her enough that MTA is effective. It freezes the yoma in place as sailor moon hits her with an NTA. And the NCAA destroys the yola. And then in doing so, it releases the others from their planets. [01:06:02] Speaker A: Yep. [01:06:02] Speaker B: And that's basically the end of the episode. Yeah, that's pretty flexible. [01:06:08] Speaker A: Yeah, the end of the fight and all that stuff. But then right before it all ends, right after she destroys Kyomaran, we cut to the chateau. Yeah, we cut to the chateau, and Nephro is like, shit. Ah, she died. I lost all that energy. This is frustrating. I guess we'll have to figure something out. And, oh, who do we hear? Yeah, it's a good friend. Zoe site. [01:06:38] Speaker B: Remember earlier when I was like, why isn't Nep. Right? Worried about the silver crystal? Well, it turns out his nephew asks, so, Zoey site, have you found the silver crystal? So I guess that they split up duties, and Zoe said, the crystal, but. [01:06:55] Speaker A: He. [01:06:57] Speaker B: Couldn'T help himself. But taking the opportunity to gloat about nephrotes. [01:07:03] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. And he's like, what's going to happen when barrel finds out? So that kind of. I feel like that kind of supports. Our nephrite's been kind of avoiding peril, which is kind of causing. [01:07:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Bray has been avoiding feral. [01:07:22] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:07:22] Speaker B: And then we cut to teaching. Is being interviewed saying that he's stepping down. He's taking a break from photography because he learned that a girl's true beauty isn't just her looks, that it's what's in her heart, and it's her ability to do the right thing, and she truly appreciates that. He won't. He won't take any more pictures. That's what he says. [01:07:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:49] Speaker B: He says he learned this for a young girl. And then we cut to the. Soggy's family is watching this interview on tv, and Zaggy's mom says, I wish Isagi would be a young girl like that because they inspire somebody. Oh, the irony. [01:08:05] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I have. I went on this. I went on this whole. [01:08:10] Speaker B: At the end of the episode. [01:08:12] Speaker A: Yeah. So in my notes, I went on this whole rant at the end of that, where it starts with, no one thinks that Usagi is smart enough to share wisdom, but let me read it verbatim. It's like Usagi has an extremely high eq emotional intelligence and cares so deeply for her friends and family. She treats total strangers with kindness, curiosity, and empathy. She's amazing, and I aspire to be as kind and loving as she is. But what I love most about Usagi, what I also love about her, is that she's incredibly flawed as well. She is to be admired in her imperfection. [01:08:49] Speaker B: Right? Nice. [01:08:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Because, you know, she's just like people don't give her enough credit. She's pretty amazing. [01:08:58] Speaker B: Well, people definitely. [01:08:59] Speaker A: It always irks me when people. [01:09:01] Speaker B: She's definitely under, like, that viral, but Jokey thinks she's great. You know what I mean? [01:09:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:13] Speaker B: He's not critical of her if he's dumb or that she doesn't care about, you know. So Mujoki sees it, and I think it's funny because Usagi is Sailor Moon. When Usagi becomes Sailor Moon, she doesn't gain attributes. These are who Usagi is. You do what she is, and people don't see it. It's funny. People don't see it. And I think that's part of the charm of the show, is that. Is that so? I think the show is. This is what the show is saying to young people, especially young girls, is that you can have these traits and attributes and people don't see it. And that. And that. These are the things that made Sailor Moon great, but these are attributes that you can have, too. You can be a super. [01:10:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Right. There was this thing that they had. Definitely. There was this thing that they had in the Deke dub, which is the original dub for Sailor Moon, where what they would do is at the end, they had sailor Moon says where the. [01:10:18] Speaker B: Right. [01:10:20] Speaker A: The producers and editors would just, like, chop up a bunch of clips and then have Sailor Moon talk about different things. Like on the episode about weight loss, where with jadeites, where they're at the gym, they have a whole session at the end where they're just like, you don't need to focus on that. Women are beautiful no matter what size they are. And da da da da. Please don't be working out. And being healthy is one thing, but don't work yourself to the point where you're exhausted and hurting yourself. And it was just like, even though it wasn't originally part of the show, it's really nice that they added that in because it's like a very. It's important. It's important for. For young girls to hear that. And it's emphasized so much in the show, but then also having that extra thing at the end being like, hey, by the way, in case you. In case we didn't beat you over the head with it, you're perfect the way you are. [01:11:11] Speaker B: Right? [01:11:12] Speaker A: So. [01:11:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:15] Speaker B: Nice. [01:11:16] Speaker A: I don't know. I guess I love this show about feeling good for yourself. [01:11:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Do I talk about social media? [01:11:22] Speaker A: Yeah. So, as always, you guys can reach us on pretty much all social media with Mooney cast. We're at Mooney cast on Twitter. Our Facebook is facebook.com crossthemooniverse. And then, of course, we have our main webpage, which is across the mooniferst dot castos.com. and we try and update those and keep. Keep in tune as much as possible. But, you know, we're busy people, but we still love you all. I've been sharing a lot of things on. On our Facebook page recently, trying to. Trying to keep up the action. And I also shared on June 30, which was Usagi's birthday. Gotta show representation for our girl. [01:12:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Happy movie, everybody. We'll see you for next episode. Episode 18. What's it called, Maddie? [01:12:15] Speaker A: Shingles love the grieving doll. [01:12:18] Speaker B: That's right. The grieving doll. Yeah. Like I said, like I said, I look at Shingo as a girlfriend. Shingo has a girlfriend. All right, everyone. Thank you. Have a good night.

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